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1. In Global 1 and 2, you saw governments that were individual-based (monarchy) and also collectively-based (Greeks). Explain how each book shows the struggle between making decision for the individual versus making decisions for the collective (whole group).
2. What decisions did each main character make about his situation based on the collective? Were they good decisions for each of the main characters?
3. What decisions did each main character make about his situation based on his individual need? Were those decisions beneficial or harmful?
4. Explain how Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar.
5. Describe the similarities in how Elie and Siddhartha react to Schachter and Buddha. Do you feel their reactions were beneficial?
6. Why do they react this way? Explain separately for each character.
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Question #1
ReplyDeleteIn the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha struggles on making his own decisions. He always made the decisions that helped him the most to the best of his ability. Afterward in chapter 3( Gautama) he struggles in choosing to find his own path away from the Buddha and the samanas on his own rather than staying with his friend Govinda. Both have made decision, up until they parted, that effected both of them in similar ways as Govinda always followed Siddhartha. The point of them separating was tough for Govinda because he was always with Siddhartha and always following him. He wanted him to stay but he also wanted to follow him again to a new path. His desire was to stay with the Buddha instead of following Siddhartha. Siddhartha at this point had already made up his mind and was going to leave the Buddha's path and his friendship with Govinda till later.
In the book Night, Elie had no decisions to make except to stay with his father in the concentration camps. That was his indivisual choice that sometimes would not happen as the decisions for the collective was made by the German officers in the camps. All the jews in the camps had to follow orders and could not say otherwise or they would have to face the consequences which were death, by burning to ashes or cinder, or they would be whipped several times by the German officers. Elie had his head shaved, food taken away to only bits, and clothes that were made for prisioners. Nothing was his decision as they were made for the entire group of Jews in the camp. Anytime, if not allowed by an officer, someone made their own choice for themselves, they imidately had to face dire consequences. These were the struggles in both books of Night and Siddhartha up until chapter three.
Question #2
In the book Siddhartha, the decisions that Siddhartha made for the collective were all very good decisions that helped out in some way. One of Siddhartha's decision for the collective was to be a samana with his friend Govinda. While both of them being samanas under the same elder of which they usually stayed with in the forest. Siddhartha's decision to join the samanas with his friend Govinda was for both of them. It was a collective decision that helped their thirst for knowledge. They both learned under the samanas to meditate, control their thirst for water and hunger, breathe differently so that they can conserve energy and do it longer, and they also became wiser. This decision was for the better of Siddhartha and also his friend Govinda to get a new learning experience and to help them reach their goals, mainly reaching nirvana, and to be better men.
In Night, Eliezer's decision for the collective was to join his father in the barracks rather than going with his mother with the other boys his age. This turned to be a good decision as he was a boy stuck with the other men like his father so that he may help out with all the physical labor that needed to be done according to the SS officers that made them work. This may have been a good decision for the group of men in the barracks but perhaps a bad decision for Elie. Elie now has to realize and he does as of chapter three, that he'll be working all day and night for little food and only to deteriorate his body. Both of these characters made tough decisions but they were both for the better of the group that they were forced to join or go on their own to help out the rest of the group members.
Question #3
ReplyDeleteIn the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha's main indivisual decision was to separate from Govinda and find his own path to nirvana. Govinda and Siddhartha were inseperable because Govinda would always follow his friend no matter what he did as he adorded his company and his knowledge. Siddhartha parted from his friend and also from the samanas and Gautama Buddha. This was Siddharthas bigest decision so far in the book as it will change his life to attempt and reach nirvana. This decision was benificial as he already gained much knowledge and there will be more to come for him. Also it was good for Govinda as he can now follow the Buddha and Gautama benifieted as of his talk with Siddhartha questioning himself and that also changed his philosophy a bit for the better. Siddharthas decision was a benifical for all to part from his friend and those who taught him many things so far.
In Night, Elie's indivisual decision was when asked what was his occupation by an SS officer, he said that he was a farmer. This decision ended up being a bit harmful to Elie as he lied saying that he was a farmer. Farmers are expected to know how to work hard and to labor for hours. Elie never did that in his life. He now has to labor every day in the consentration camps with his father and everyone else just to shut the Germans up. He is now expected to do alot and to give his all and eat little. He needed this to survive and not be sent to the crematory to be burned to death but it was harmful to his physical being. Yet benifical so that he may stay alive another day. . .
Question #4
Madame Schachter in Night and Gautama Buddha in Siddhartha, are both similar but in different ways in both books. Schachter in Night was a woman who was considered crazy as in the ride toward the consentration camps, she would scream that there is a fire burning. "Look! Look at it! Fire! A terrible fire! Mercy! Oh, that fire!"(page 22). Everyone would believe her and look outside of the car that they were in because they were scared and curious. In Siddhartha, the Buddha tells speeches and cries out teachings of his that everyone follows and learns much from him. Both Buddha and Schachter have people that believe them and do what they say. Madame Schachter though, has no proof that there really is a fire burning until they kill her and when they reach the camp, there really is a fire burning and they believe now that she was telling the truth to these people. Buddha similarly has people that follow what he says and they believe him. They do what he does according to his teachings and it has helped people so far mentaly to think differently and reach nirvana according to his ways. They both seem right to the people in the book afterwards in the end. They are both similar in different ways.
Question #5
ReplyDeleteElie and Siddhartha had both reacted based on what Schachter and Buddha had said. Eliezer had basically just stayed put even though he knew that woman. He believed what she said about the fires and would always look but then just called her crazy like the other men and women in the car. He also just watched her get beat up by the other men who couldn't stand her anymore as she was talking far too much. Siddhartha similarly just watched the Buddha speak his words. He believed much of what he said as his speeches were outstanding to him. He then believed a little less as he found flaws in his speech and noted them to the Buddha to gain knowledge and to know why he does what he does. Both characters had believed in what these people had said but later on had given up a bit because it was gibberish with flaws in them afterward. Their reactions were benificial as for Elie, he didn't have to worry about others beating him because he would take her side and nothing would harm him. As for Siddhartha it was benificial as he gained even more knowledge from Buddha explaining what he did and now he noted flaws in outstanding speeches. He can now go off on his own to reach nirvana his own way. This is how both characters reacted similarly.
Question #6
Siddhartha: Siddhartha had reacted in a way to question Gautama Buddha because he felt that he himself, was right. He wanted to find a right and true path to reach nirvana and he had decided that Buddha was wrong because he had found flaws in his teachings that went against what he was preeching to the people that followed him. He wasnt in disgust and he enjoyed Buddha's knowledge but he didn't like the flaws that were out there to be noted for others.
Elizer: Elie had believed in what Schachter said because she would just scream out of nowhere that there was a fire and that usually alarmed him and he would look out, but to find nothing wrong. He then just reacted as if nothing happened. She was speaking gibberish to him because now, he didn't really care. He let the other men beat her to shut her up because she talked too much. He knew the woman and didn't help her out. His reaction was to stay stationary and watch. He reacted this way so he wouldn't get beat up. That simple.
1, Throughout both books, many decisions are made, some are rash and hasty often being made by the individual, others are more understandable and have a scensus with a whole group, these are decisions made by the collective. Each book struggles to at least show one or the other, in some cases both are displayed. Siddhartha is a perfect example of both because in his quest for knowledge the protagonist is faced with many decisions, both collective and individual. In "Night" as the confusing part of Ellie's life begins to unfold through his transportation's many decisions are made, some thought out, others a bit rash. Throughout both stories decisions in the collective are made as a group of people decide upon a common value, and many individual decisions are made, sometimes rash based on the characters thoughts and ideas.
ReplyDelete2, In each story the main protagonist has made many decisions, some of these decisions are based on the collective, or a whole group. In "Siddhartha" the main character, Siddhartha makes many decisions simply based on the collective. By listening to his best friend Govinda who was truly motivated by a man known as Guatama the Buddha, Siddhartha decided on leaving the samanas along with his friend to go listen to this captivating speaker known as Buddha. In the book "Night" not many individual decisions have been made by the protagonist known as Ellie, he has just sort of stayed with the group throughout the first chapters of the book. for example when Mrs. Schachter began yelling out for fire constantly in a small group of tired people, a decision was made that was supported by the entire group. Some in th e group began to hold her down, and even go as far as to strike the stricken lady. Although this seems a bit harsh, it was a decision made by and supported by the entire group. These type of decisions would show the books through the perspective of the collective.
3, Sometimes an idea seems so special and important at a certain time to an individual that it may seem no further consolation is needed, this is how individual decisions come about. In "Siddhartha" the main character Siddhartha makes many decisions simply based on by himself. These decisions are individually on his thoughts, likes and dislikes. When Siddhartha decided on leaving his home to study with a group of wanderers known as the samanas, it was a decision purely based on himself on his quest for knowledge. Although he seeked his fathers permission, his father originally said no but Siddhartha remained stubborn and persistent until he got what he wanted. I believe that this decision was more beneficial to Siddhartha because it only strengthened his ideas he had previously, and helped him see a world that was unknown to him. With the samanas Siddhartha learned many things that would be valuable to him later on in his life. In "Night" the main character Ellie does not make many individual decisions, but he does make one, though his father prohibited him, Ellie seeked a mentor that could teach him the teachings of Kabbalah. Ellie found his mentor in a man named Moishe the Beadle. This decision was definitely beneficial to Ellie because it helped him learn many new things, and help keep his beliefs and knowledge high.
4, In both stories, two new characters are introduced, although they don’t really play a major role, they help the protagonist see more then meets the eye. Theses two characters can somewhat be related to and compared. In the book "Night" while on his transport to a concentration camp, Ellie finds himself in an uncomfortable method of transportation with eighty other people. Everyone is tired and thirsty, then Ellie see's a heart stricken women he knew earlier in his life, she has just been separated from her family, her name was Mrs. Schachter. Soon while on there convoy, Mrs. Schachter begins yelling and frantically panting out swearing she is witnessing an intense fire, no one see's anything but she continues. Her screams annoy everyone in the convoy to the last nerve to which it is supported and suggested that people strike her to get her to shut up. No one believes her and even goes as far as to physically hurt her. In the book "Siddhartha" a new character known as Guatama the Buddha is heard of, many rumors began to spread about this man, rumors such as that this man had reached nirvana, and that his speech could heal the sick, and that he had talked to the gods themselves. Many people were motivated due to this man, it brought hope. But many non believers and enemies said he was a false prophet, they chose not to believe in him and simply pass him off and talk about his acts, which is what the oldest samana did. Through this Mrs. Schachter and guatama the Buddha can be compared as people whom had radical ideas but many people didn’t believe in and saw them as liars.
ReplyDelete5, When both of these new characters arrive, the main character in each story reacts different to this new prescense. When Mrs. Schachter first begins her screaming and ranting of seeing a fire, everyone believes her, even Ellie, they quickly run to the nearest window to see what's going on. Soon they discover she was laying, but Mrs. Schachter swears theres a fire in the direction she points at while no body see's anything. At first Ellie believes her in all the words she states, then as everyone see's the oppostire of her chants, Ellie begins feeling sorry for the poor women. Many state she has gone mad, but Ellie knows its her heart, torn apart by her separation from her family. Although Ellie gets annoyed i would say compared to everyone else on the convoy, Ellie's reaction would be beneficial, since he has some background to Mrs. Schachter and could understand her pain, as appose to complete strangers who've never met her. In "Siddhartha" when rumors of Guatama the Buddha spread, Sidhhartha stays in dis belief. Siddhartha has these revolutionary ideas to which he tells to his best friend Govinda. Siddhartha feels he has learned to much and gotten nothing out of it, so growing weary of teachings, Siddhartha feels as if nothing could be learned from this "prophet". Although Govinda feels great hope within this Buddha, Siddhartha doesn't feel the same and finally decides to go with his best friend to follow the teachings of this Buddha, through pure show of fate. Although not so optimistic Siddhartha's reaction to Guatama the Buddha isn't so beneficial, it is in fact harmful because to go following this Buddha Siddhartha had to leave the samanas. With the samanas Siddhartha could of learned so much more. Following the Buddha with not so much show of belief would probably cause him not to believe so much in the Buddhas teachings.
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ReplyDelete6, There are probably many reasons why the main characters react this way towards the new presence they face. Ellie in "Night" probably reacted to Mrs. Schachter the way he did because of his prior knowledge of her life. Knowing she was a loving mother and seeing her without the rest of her family probably gave him reason to feel sorry for her, and sort of give her the reason of doubt throughout her annoying process of screams and yells. Siddhartha on the other hand reacted the way he did to this new prophet because of his past. Throughout Siddhartha's life, he always seeked knowledge, first he learned from the Brahmins and there teachings, second he learned from the samanas, so much as to even question the eldest samana. Siddhartha felt weary of teachings, he felt as if his mentors had waited there lives in something pointless if they had truly studied worthwhile wouldn’t they have reached nirvana? the inner peace they spoke so much of? All this made Siddhartha question everything, so when rumors struck of this Buddha and his teachings, Siddhartha was not impressed.
ReplyDeleteQuestion 1
ReplyDeleteIn the book Night, it had both a struggle for individual and collective decisions. For the Individual it was mostly just staying with his father because he had no one else. When it was collective it was when Elie was sleeping standing up, the other Jews would say "Are you mad? We've been told to stay standing. Do you want to bring trouble on us all? (page 35). He had to a good decision to not sleep because then everyone was going to get in trouble. The Germans would struggle too, because if the workers didn't follow orders then they would get killed (Jews)
In the book Siddhartha there was also struggle to make decisions. When Siddhartha had to pick to leave the samanas, he had to struggle there to be with the samanas. Siddhartha made some collective choices because he wanted to see the Buddha and his friend also. He also had to make decisions to leave his Friend Govinda to follow his own path than following him. Siddhartha made some choices to follow his own path than Buddha. Siddhartha may have left some important things in his life but he kept on going.
Question 2
In Night, Elie had to make collective decisions because he was standing up, but sleeping. So the other Jews would say, "Are you mad? We've been told to stay standing. Do you want to bring trouble on us all? (page 35). It was a good choice to stay waked up because he is not letting his people down. Another collective decision was when Elie went with his father because he couldn’t with his mother. He had to be with the men in the concentration camps. Elie lied about his age, because he had to be with his father. For Siddhartha he made the collective decision. It was when he went to the Samanas with his friend Govinda. He made that decision for a reason to reach something. Another collective decision was when Siddhartha wanted to leave the samanas because he wanted to hear the teachings of Buddha. He did this and so did his friend. This was a good decision because Siddhartha learned to meditate, control many feelings, and the thirst of knowledge continued. It got him wiser and almost at the tip of his goal. Elie and Siddhartha made great decisions for the people around them that helped them in the future.
Question 3
For Elie in Night, he made some Individual decisions because he had to. One was when he had to stay with his father almost the whole time. This was good, because Elie was not alone and he had his father on his side. Another example was Elie didn't eat for three days, but he was served soup but he didn't eat it. But after he got hungrier he started to eat anything. This was benefited because he needed to survive and the only hope was to eat the soup and bread.
For Siddhartha, he had to make the decision to be with Buddha or leave him; he decided to follow his own path. This was harmful, because Siddhartha could have learned from Buddha. Another one was when Siddhartha made the choice that Govinda would follow Buddha than him. "Will Govinda ever take a step alone, without me, prompted by his own soul?" (page 29). This was a wise decision, because now Govinda is grown up to follow his own path and to decide for his own self. Both characters made some good and harmful decisions.
Question 4
ReplyDeleteIn Night, Madame Schachter and the rest of the Jews are in transportation. Her husband and two kids were separated and she started to say things like "Jews, listen to me! I can see fire! There are huge flames! It is a furnace!" (page 23). Many people believed her for every word she said. They believed her but when they looked outside but they never saw anything. She kept on going and the men got tired of her and beat her up and tired her up in a corner. But then when they got to the concentration camps, they did see smoke.
But for Buddha, rumors got to the samanas, Siddhartha, and Govinda. They said Buddha was a great teacher, holy man, etc. the samanas didn't care for this but Siddhartha and Govinda did. They traveled to see him and when they did they believed him for what he said. Buddha spoke of the truth and nothing but the truth. People followed him, and believed him. Both of these characters are similar in many ways at the end.
Question 5
When Madame Schachter was going "crazy" in the way to the camps, Elie would just see her. Many knew her already, so Elie felt bad that Schachter was getting hit so many times by the men who want her to be quiet. The reason they wanted her to be quite is because many believed her but then it was lie of what she was saying. Elie would just see her in her corner tired up. But Elie did believe her when he got out and he smelled the burning of flesh. Then he did believe her every word she said. This was good Elie because he is not getting crazy and being hurt by other. It is also bad because he is seeing someone getting beat up in his eyes.
Siddhartha believed the word of Buddha went Buddha started to give his teachings he felt that they were true to all life. But something happened to Siddhartha that made him believe less and he found some cracks in the teachings. Then Siddhartha wanted to find out why Buddha did what he did. Then Siddhartha felt that he had to go his own way because it was ideas that separated other's ideas. Elie and Siddhartha reacted differently but also similar.
Question 6
The Reason the way Elie reacted the way he did was because for many reasons. One was that he really did believe her (Madame Schachter.) He would look out side because he was scared and just curious. Another reason was that he knew her and he felt bad that she was getting hit so hard and many times because she is a senior. He felt that it was good because she most of gone crazy after being separated by her sons and husband. Elie was just fine that he didn't get hurt.
Siddhartha felt the way he did because he felt that he had different ideas and felt that he could reach Nirvana a different way. He did agree on certain things the Buddha said. Siddhartha wanted to go the right path than the Buddha, not by his teachings but his certain beliefs. Siddhartha picked the right path to find things himself.
QUESTION 1
ReplyDeleteSiddhartha and Night both have their share of decision making.Siddhartha has a good amount of individual decision making.For example when Siddhartha parted ways with govinda,he made an individual decision to leave his friends to be amongst the samanas of Buddha.In Night,collective decision making was used a lot.Where the group of prisoners go and how they act were all group decisions.The types of decisions make people who they are and how they are seen.
QUESTION2
Siddhartha and Govinda made a collective decision to leave the samanas to go listen to the Buddha's teachings.For Govinda it was a good decision, but Siddhartha continued his pilgrimage and left Govinda. In Night, Elie and his father made a collective decision to listen to the man that told them to say they're 18 and 40. If they didn't they probably wouldnt be where they currently are.
QUESTION 3
Siddhartha's individual decision were all based on leaving the group he's with or was with. I personally think they were beneficial because Siddhartha's moving allowed him to find himself.Elie's individual decision was when he chose to stay with his dad instead of with his mom. I think that was both beneficialand harmful. It's beneficial because his dad has somebody, but tey it's harmful because he barely knows anything about how is mother and sisters are doing.
QUESTION 4
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar.Buddha teaches that life is suffering, and Madame S. showed life is suffering when she freaked out on the train.They both think and feel like life is based on suffering,everything they do has a bit of suffer.
QUESTION 5
Elie and Siddhartha reacted very similar to Madame Schachter and Buddha.They both were shocked when they began to yell and argue.Elie was shocked because Madame Schachter was freaking about a fire that wasn't there.Siddhartha was shocked because the Buddha was arguing about something Siddhartha said. I do think their reactions were beneficial because they each learned something about themselves.
QUESTION 6
Siddhartha is shocked because he didn't want to argue with Buddha when he announced his leaving.Buddha seemed so peaceful and Siddhartha didn't think they would have a back and forth conversation. Elie reacted shockingly because it's not everyday a crazy lady screams"FIRE" in the cattle ride and the place they stayed before they left to the concentration camps.
Question 1
ReplyDeleteIn both books, Siddhartha and Night, the two main characters, Siddhartha and Elie, make many tough descisions. Some of the descisions were individual-based and collectively-based. Siddhartha makes his individaul descision when he desides to leave his friend, Govinda, and sticking to the Samanas. Prior to that there was a collectively-based descision made that affected the lives of Siddhartha and Govinda in a big way. It was the descision to leave home and be samanas.These kinds of descisions are also made in Night. Individauly, Elie desides that its best for him if he goes along with his father and not his mother. It is a descision that possibly saved him, for now. Collective descisions are made by most of the Jew families. The families that remained alive desided that it was better for them if they would work rather than to be burned to ashes. These were smart choices. Hopefully, they could hold on to their duties.
Question 2
The main characters of each book make very important collective descisions. the main character of the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha, makes the descision to become a samana. He doesn't do this alone, though. Him and his best friend, Govinda, do this together. It wasn't such a bad decsision considering that the two friends learned to relieve themselves of pain, hunger, and many other things.In the book Night, Elie desides to sleep while standing up. others thought he was crazy. He didn't sleep like that because he wanted to. it was because he was thinking of not getting him and the others in trouble since they(the Jews) were told to stand. Although it was uncomfortable, this descision benefited the others including Elie.
Question 3
In the two books the main characters have to make descisions that are individual-based. Siddhartha made a descision that from my opinion wasn't so good. He finaly found the Buddha who had the answers to his questions and he went the other way. He was separated from his friend and a chance to reach his destination on his journey. Elie from Night made a descision that was better than that of Siddhartha's. At first, Elie didn't like the soup served at the camps and he didn't eat. Hunger got the better side of him and he made his descision to eat. It wasn't easy to not eat while working all day long. He made the right descision.
Question 4
Although the two are in different books Madame Schachter and Buddha are pretty similar. Little by liitle as time passed by Madame Schachter began to lose it. She started yelling "Fire, fire" and caused commotion. People began rushing for the windows to see what happened. A similar thing happened when the discovery of the Buddha was announced. People began leaving town to see this miracle worker. It was just like when the people ran to the windows to check out the fire. They both caused commotion.
Question 5
The reaction of Elie and Siddhartha to Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar. Elie reacts very surprised when he hears the noise and screaming of Madame Schachter. Nobody expected there to be this much terror in someone that when it was unleashed it caused even more terror within others. Siddhartha reacts with much surprise as he and the Buddha start to argue. As he tries to get his point accross, Siddhartha, gains knowledge within the flaws of Buddha's teachings which is a good thing.
Question 6
As Elie was sleeping he heard a great noise. it was the ruckus of Madame Schachter. This came with great surprise to Elie because he was into his sleep and was interruped. it was a screech full of terror and it had put terror and fear into the young man. Siddhartha gets this feeling of surprise too! he was wide awake, though. When he corrects a few points in the Buddha's teachings he gets the surprise he wasn't expecting. The Buddha starts to argue with him. As Siddhartha explains his points he learns the kind of knowledge he has and that following the Buddha wouldn't be a good idea. His friend went with the Buddha and they parted ways!
Question 1
ReplyDeleteIn both Siddhartha and Night, there were many decisions the character had to go through. In Siddhartha, he individually decides to become a Samanas, even thought it means to abandom his friend. But this decision collectively affects people around him, and himself, their lives gradually change as Siddhartha chooses his path. In Night, Elie individually chose to follow his father, and his ways. Already knowing that if the Jews in camp, doesn't follow orders, they will have to face death, Elie collectively decides on his own, knowing his choices might affect the Jews around him.
Question 2
The collective decisions made in both Siddhartha and Night affected the character's life. Siddhartha decided to become a Samanas and leave his friend Govinda. The fact he already knew he had to leave his friend, means he chose his own path, deciding on his own future. It's a good decision because the path he took, is the path he decided, even if it means to change his life forever. In Night, Elie decides to stand sleeping, he knew it will be tough and uncomfortable, but he decides to do so, because he thought by doing this, the Jews and himself wouldn't get into trouble. This decision he made was a good desicion since it helped the Jews and himself.
Question 3
Decisions made in both characters had beneficial and harmful parts. In Siddhartha, he chose to leave his best friend Govinda that would follow him forever. He chose to follow his own path and become a Samanas. This was harmful because he is to leave his friend behind and part from many things that were precious to him. It was beneficial because this way, Govinda learned to follow his own way of life instead of following others. In Night, Elie didn't eat the camp's food, but his hunger grew worse and in the end he decides to eat. It was a beneficial decision because he would have died from hunger.
Question 4
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar because they both speak the truth. In Night, Madame Schachter always called out fire, but when people looked, they didn't see anything, people got annoyed, and ignored her. In the end, there was actually a fire when people weren't concious of it. In Siddhartha, Buddha is a man who speaks the truth, and people believed him and followed his teaching. Madame Schachter annd Buddha is similar because they both speak the truth, and only the truth.
Question 5
In Night, Elie's reaction to Madame Schachter was beneficial because when he heard Madame Schachter scream fire, Elie looked for where the screaming came so he can see if there really is a fire. If it was true, he would tell everyone to escape, so seeing the truth is beneficial. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha's reaction to Buddha benefited him because he gained knowledge from Buddha's arguement, and learned the truth to many things.
Question 6
In Night, Elie's reaction to Madame Schachter's screaming is an obvious outcome. It was during the night, when everyone is sleeping, being interrupted in his sleep, it is a obvious reaction to go look for who is screaming and the reaction of being suprised. In Siddhartha, his reaction when Buddha started argueing with him is also suprising. The fact they were arugeing led to learning that following Buddha isn't a right choice.
Question 1:
ReplyDeleteIn both stories some of the characters struggle to make a decision for an individual or for a whole group and sometimes their decisions are made for both, the individual and a whole group. In Night, the Jewish Council makes a choice which affect both himself and the people. This shows that his choice both affects the Jews and himself, too. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha's choice is a struggle of a choice of leaving Govinda and joining the samanas. In Night, the struggle of the choice is made for the safety of a group and in Siddhartha the struggle of a choice is made by an individual. Both stories shows the struggles of the characters choosing a choice for themselves and/or as a group of people.
Question 2:
In a story a the main characters makes good choices and bad choices which define their characteristic. In Siddhartha a good choice he makes was joining the samanas with his friend, Govinda. This was a great decision for the character to become empty of thirst, desire, dreams, and sorrow. In Night, a good decision Ellie makes is to follow his parents and not try to escape from the Hungarians and the Nazis. This was a good choice he does because if he tried to escape the Nazis would kill them. he prevented his death by following the orders of the Nazis. The main characters make good actions to help them throughout the stories.
Question 3:
In both stories the main characters make choices depending on their needs. In Night, Ellie makes a choice of eating the food that the camp served. For some time he did not want to eat the soup, however hunger caused him pain and he finally decided to eat. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha decides to follow Buddha and his teachings and found what he was looking for. In both cases the choices were beneficial to the main characters.
Question 4:
In the story Night, Ms. Schachter was a crazy woman who screamed out that there was a fire every night. Most people believed in what she said at first. In Siddhartha, Buddha was a person that most people believed in and most followed his teachings about the truth, however, the samanas did not believe in him. Buddha explained that life was suffering and Ms. Schachter showed that she was suffering. They are both similar because most believe in him and both teaches that life was suffering.
Question 5:
In Nigh, when Ms. Schachter starts to do insane and scream that there is a fire, Ellie at first believed her and even ran to see out the window. In Siddhartha, when Siddhartha starts to hear the teachings of Buddha it benefits him because he gains more intelligence of what he was looking for. Ellie's reaction of looking out the window was not beneficial because the fire was a lie. However, Siddhartha encounter with the Buddha is a good thing for him because he learns new things.
Question 6:
In Night, Ellie first inspects if there is any fire at first when Ms. Schachter screams "Fire!" Then after that moment every night when she yelled "Fire" he did not believe her any more and got annoyed every time she screamed. Ellie probably felt bad for her because she was old and was being treated badly. In Siddhartha, after he had heard the teachings of the Buddha he found a flaw in his teachings that were contrary to his beliefs. Although he still like what he learned he didn't want others to be "fooled" by what he taught. He thought that following Buddha would not be a great choice to follow him. Both of the main characters had a different impression on the people around them.
Question #1
ReplyDeleteIn Siddhartha, Siddhartha individually decided that it was best for Govinda and him to separate to follow their own paths. Before Siddhartha had decided on this, their collective thinking affected them both. For example, both characters decided to meet Buddha. Meeting Buddha led to where they are in chapter 3. In Night, Elie and his group didn't have many decisions. The Nazis collectively decided to give them the same food and clothes. If any Jew wasn't healthy or capable of working they would be killed. Elie individually decided to stay by his father rather than committing suicide.
Question #2
Collectively, Siddhartha and Govinda decided to become a samana. Becoming samanas became a good decision because it was both beneficial to them. It gave them more knowledge and experience. In Night, Elie decided to go with his father. Going with his father to the Barracks became a seemingly good decision but it wasn't. Elie would need to work hard day and night with little food.
Question #3
Elie individually decided he should eat after three long days. If he didn't eat it would have been bad for him. He would become weak and wouldn't be able to work. If he wasn't able to work, he would be killed. Deciding to eat was beneficial. Siddhartha individually decided that it would best if Govinda and him separated. Following their own paths would give them more knowledge towards to their goal. Separating from Govinda allowed Siddhartha to speak with Buddha. Speaking with Buddha gave Siddhartha himself.
Question #4
Madame Schacter and Buddha is similar in a way. They don't let others comments hurt the way they think. Madame Schacter was told crazy and was told to be quiet but it still didn't affect her screams of "FIRE". Siddhartha comments towards Buddhas Teachings didn't affect Buddha in anyway. Buddha didn't mind Siddhartha's comments.
Question #5
Both Siddhartha and Elie reacted to Schacter and Buddha's talks. Elie reacted towards Schacter like the others in the wagon. He considered her crazy and didn't do anything while others hurt her. It was helpful not doing anything because it helped conserve energy. Siddhartha also reacted to Buddha like the others. They believed Buddha's Teachings. It was beneficial because it gave Siddhartha more knowledge than he had.
Question #6
Elie reacted towards Schacter like the others because he didn't know what Schacter was doing. Elie might of thought it was wrong to hurt her because she lost her husband and her two older sons but he went with the others because he was ignorant of her actions. Siddhartha reacted towards Buddhas Teachings like the others because Buddha had reached Nirvana. From reaching Nirvana, this would be impressive and others would want to know how he has done it.
Question One:
ReplyDeleteIn Night, Elie and his father listened to one of the prisoners that were already there and lied about their age. This was their individual decision, lying about their age allowed them to stay together and alive. An example of a collective decision that they made would be working in the concentration camps. Working in the concentration camps will keep them alive rather then being burned in the furnace. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha made the decision of leaving Govinda to learn on his own. Govinda wanted to attain more knowledge with the Buddha. But Siddhartha felt that he already learned everything he needed to learn so decided to leave Govinda.
Question Two:
In both books, the main characters make decisions based on the collective. In Night, Elie and his father make a choice about lying about their age. Lying about their age allowed them to stay together. This was definitely a good decision because if they didn’t lie about their age, they might be separated. Separation wasn’t a good idea because they don’t know when they will have the chance to see each other again. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes the decision of leaving his family to become a samana and Govinda goes along. This was a good decision because Siddhartha always had a desire for knowledge and becoming a samana would expand his knowledge. He learned a lot of things from the samanas.
Question Three:
In both books, the main characters made decisions based on their individual needs. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha made the decision of leaving Govinda. Govinda wanted to learn from Guatama but Siddhartha felt that he already learned everything he had to learn so he didn’t join Govinda. This was a good decision because he already learned a lot of things from the samamas and moving on without Govinda would benefit him to reaching Nirvana. In Night, Elie didn’t eat the food that was given to him in the concentration camps. After three days of not eating, Elie decided to eat because he couldn’t stand starvation anymore. It was a good decision and it benefited him because if he didn’t eat, he wouldn’t have the strength to do the work that the officers would assign him and not doing work meant being burned in the furnace.
Question Four:
ReplyDeleteThe Buddha and Madame Schacter have many similarities. In Night, Madame Schacter was separated from the rest of her family and was very sad. She became insane and began to see things. She claims that she saw a fire in the middle of the night and tricked people into believing her and caused trouble for people. But when they arrived at the concentration camps, there was a fire burning in a furnace. People didn’t believe that because they didn’t see what she saw. In Siddhartha, everyone believed that the Buddha had reached Nirvana. Hearing this made Govinda and Siddhartha curious about him and wanted to know more about him. But when Siddhartha met him, he disagreed with the Buddha’s teaching. Govinda wanted to learn from the Buddha so Siddhartha left Govinda. The Buddha and Madame Schacter both caused problems for people. Madame Schacter tricked people into believing there was a fire. And the Buddha caused Siddhartha and Govinda’s friendship to end.
Question Five:
Elie and Siddhartha have many similarities in reacting towards Madame Schacter and the Buddha. After Madame Schacter tricked the people a few more times into believing there was a fire, she was tied up. But she broke free and continued to scream so people began to hit her. All Elie did when Madame Schacter was being hit and tied up by the other people was watch her in shock. He didn’t know what to do. Elie’s reaction was beneficial to him because if he interfered with them, he could have been hit too. Siddhartha told the Buddha what he thought about his teachings and the Buddha responded back. Siddhartha was surprised to hear the Buddha respond back to his opinion. Siddhartha’s reaction was beneficial and wasn’t beneficial for him at the same time. It was beneficial because he learned something from the Buddha, but it wasn’t beneficial because he lost his friend Govinda.
Question Six:
Elie reacted this way because he didn’t know what to do. Madame Schacter was just screaming about seeing a fire and there wasn’t one. So the boys on the wagon tied her up and hit her a few times. He didn’t want to interfere because he might end up being hit as well. Siddhartha reacted this way because he didn’t agree with the Buddha. So by showing that he didn’t agree, he told the Buddha his own opinion about his teaching.
Question # 1
ReplyDeleteIn both books, Siddhartha and Night, the main characters make decisions both for the collectively and individually-based. Siddhartha and Govinda decided to leave home and join the samanas. This decision was collectively-based. When they both meet the Buddha, they both go on different paths. Hearing the Buddha's teaching, Siddhartha decides that to truly reach nirvana you have to experience it. His friend, however, wanted to stay and listen to the teachings of the Buddha. Siddhartha made a decision to follow his own path, making a decision that is individually-based. Decisions like these are seen in Night as well. Elie decides to listen to the inmate and lie about his age, allowing him not to be seperated from his father, this decision being individually-based. A collectively-based decision is made when Madame Schachter was screaming about a fire, the people collectively decided to gag her and beat her until she stopped screaming, believing that she had gone crazy. These decisions were beneficiary to some, while a benefactor to others.
Question # 2
The decisions both main characters made helped the collective and were good decisions. Siddhartha decides to continue his journey alone, leaving Govinda to learn the teachings of the Buddha. Siddhartha always spoke to Govinda about things could not be taught, but rather experience. Having seen the teachings of the Buddha, Siddhartha was mesmerized, but still believed to reach nirvana it had to be experienced. Govinda had clearly shown that he wanted to continue listening to the Buddha's teaching. Siddhartha had then decided that he would continue his path and leave Govinda to continue his as well. This decision helped the collective, being Govinda and Siddhartha, to grow as individuals and continue their destined paths. In Night, Elie decides to stand up and sleep. The other men believe that Elie is crazy, yet he is tired making him want to sleep. Being forced to stand, Elie decides to sleep while standing. This decision helped the collective and these were good decisions.
Question # 3
The decision made by Siddhartha about his situation based on his individual need helped him. Siddhartha believed to reach nirvana it would have to be experienced and in teachings he found may flaws. Seeing that Govinda had decided to join in the teachings of the Buddha, Siddhartha knew he must continue his path alone. While this hurt both Siddhartha and Govinda because they were being seperated for the first time, they knew it would help them grow and continue their path to nirvana. While Govinda continues his path with the teachings of the Buddha, Siddhartha continues a path to the experienced to reach nirvana.
While Siddhartha's decision helped his individual need, Elie's both helped and harmed his. In Night, Elie decided to listen to the inmate and lie about his age, helping him. The inmate told both Elie and his father for a certain age. They both were skeptical but listened to the inmate. By doing so, it helped both of them sticked together. Being taken to a certain side they did not know what was ahead. Elie's, as well as his father's decision helped both of them as individuals. During his talk with the doctor, he lies about his profession, not knowing what to say, which harmed him. He told the doctor that he was a farmer. In Global History, we learned taht farmers do hard labor and being only fifteen and working with a limited amount of food weakens you. Elie's two decisions both helped and harmed his individual needs.
Question # 4
ReplyDeleteMadame Schacter and Buddha are extremely similar. Both characters speak the truth, which the main characters do not believe. Madame Schachter woke up screaming about fire and smoke, terrifying the townspeople. When they looked out the window, however, all they saw was the dark blue sky. They all considered that Madame Schachter was crazy, including Elie. When reaching the concentration camp however, they see the smoke and fire; they smell the burning of dead bodies. The townspeople see that Madame Schachter was not crazy and saw what the other could not see. The Buddha is similar in this way. Having reached nirvana, the Buddha teaches others, trying to help them reach nirvana. Siddhartha is fascinate by the Buddha's grace and sees that he truly has reached nirvana, but does not believe in his teachings. He sees flaws and personally believes that to teach nirvana you have to go through certain experiences. Madame Schachter and the Buddha are similar in how the main characters do not believe the truth they speak of.
Question # 5
The similarities between how Elie and Siddhartha react to Schachter and the Buddha are very similar. Both characters do not believe what Schachter or the Buddha says. While being mesmerized by the Buddha, Siddhartha sees flaws in his teachings, which are unexplained. To Siddhartha, simply teaching is not enough to learn how to reach nirvana. He believes that you cannot learn suffering or nirvana without experiencing it. Elie also does not believe what Schachter says. She screams in the middle of the night about fire and smoke, yet no one sees it. This causes everyone, including Elie, to believe she is crazy and not believe what she is saying. There's a certain point where everyone tries to find ways to quiet her down because she keeps screaming about a fire. Elie believes that she has gone mad from this journey and sees no fire, so he does not believe her. I believe that their reactions were beneficiary. These sections help you see how both Elie and Siddhartha think and how they react to certain things. SIddhartha and Elie do not believe what Schachter and the Buddha says, but without these beneficiary reactions, it would be hard to clearly understand the character.
Question # 6
Elie reacts this way to Schachter because it was the logical thing to do. Schachter kept screaming about fire and smoke, yet no one saw it. Elie believes that she is crazy and does not believe her. Having not seen the fire or the smoke, Elie believes that this journey to the labor camp had caused her to become crazy. With limited amount of food and water, it seemed as though she has gone crazy. It's only logical to believe that she has gone crazy from the limited amount of food and water, as well as being separated from her family. Elie did not believe her and though she was going crazy because she was weak and separated from her family.
Siddhartha reacts the way he does because he finds flaws in teachings and has a set idea in mind. Ever since Siddhartha was a samana, he always believed certain techniques and teachings never helped further their knowledge or help them reach nirvana. Siddhartha believed that nirvana was reached by experiencing it, not by learning it. When hearing the teachings of the Buddha, Siddhartha finds flaws, which only helped his reasoning that reached nirvana could only be experienced. Siddhartha seeing the flaws and having a set idea in his mind, made him react that way.
Question I
ReplyDeleteIn both books each character struggles between making a decision on ones self and for the group. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha needed to make a decision to follow Govida's Path with the sage's teachings or leave her to find his own path to become a Samana. The two characters where both in the same situation of choosing a path but in the end they parted. In Night Elie told his father that he would just jump into the gates and kill himself this make his father extremely scared. Elie noticed this fear she decided to stay with his father. I thought this was the smarter choice for everyone to keep everyone from going mad, if they are just alone.
Question II
Siddhartha's decision based on the group was neither a good thing nor a bad thing for the two of them. There's a possibility where Govida becomes a Samana first from the sage's teachings while it takes Siddhartha 50 years, or possibly the other way around. Who ever becomes a Samana first would have made the better decision. But that is unknown to us which makes this answer not 100%. Elie's decision to stay with his father untill the end of the war was a very good decision. If Elie tried to escape(die from consequences) or killed himself, his father would probably go mad. Having his father sane and being alive would be a good thing!
Question III
Siddhartha's decision based on one's self would really be a bad choice. When Siddhartha and Govida parted, Siddhartha went on his own path alone while Govida had a teacher to learn from and other followers going on the same path! Siddhartha my be right on becoming a Samana (or wrong) but being alone on a journey is never good. Elie's Decision to not kill himself and stay with his father untill the end of the war is also good thing. Being alive to live live is always a good thing. Also keeping his father sane from being alone and seeing th death of his son is also a good thing!
Question IV
Madame Schachter and Buddha are not very alike but they have one similarity. They both had said something that would help the characters around them in the future. When Madame Schachter was crying out (everyone heard) of the flames she saw, they arrived to the camp and smelled flames.. While Buddha would cry out his teaching to the ones following him, The teaching they hear will help them in the future when they all become Samanas. But they are very different Madame Schachter has a son and went insane while Buddha is a sage of a wide range of knowledge and is sane.
Question V
Siddhartha's reaction to the Buddha's cries where not very beneficial to him. When he heard them he found a few flaws and would possibly be better then him in a spiritual level. This is the main reason why Siddhartha choose his own path. While For Elie hearing the cries from Madame Schachter was not beneficial at all it almost started to make him scream too! It must have scared him even more on top of the mysterious and exhausting journey he had to go through with half his family.
Question VI
Siddhartha reacted this way because he thought that it was flawed and since this sage was suppose to be "perfect" why is his speech flawed. He must have thought that this teacher was not the right one for him! While Elie was sitting near insane woman and watching her get beat up for her own good, Nothing good come out of a insane person. Elie my have saw a dark future up ahead but that wouldn't help anyone if he couldn't change it.
question #1
ReplyDeleteIn the book Siddhartha, it shows that Siddhartha was making an individual decision to leave Govinda who had always been in his shadow and continue his quest for knowledge. This shows a struggle on both Siddhartha and Govinda. Siddhartha had to leave his childhood friend and Govinda had to quit being Siddhartha's shadow. In the book Night, When Madame Schachter was screaming about seeing fire, it fills the people with terror and panick. the all made a collective decision by tying her up and beating her.
question #2
In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha collective decision was to leave the eldest of the samanas with Govinda. This was a good decision because Siddhartha knew that he already learned what he need to learn from the samanas. Govinda was very interested in the Buddha. Elie in the book Night also made a collective decision. He and his group was told to stay where they were so Elie stood sleeping on where he stood. It's a good decision because if they were seen sitting when they are not suppose to they might get killed.
question # 3
Siddhartha made an individual decison to leave Govinda is a beneficial decision for both Govinda and himself. Siddhartha goal was to find peace from his thirst of knowledge. He had learn what he had to learn from the Buddha and Govinda want to learn more from Buddha. Elie made an individual decision in the book Night. He lied to his relative Stein about hearing from Stien's family. I think it's a good decision because it made Stain happy and Stein gave a good adxice to eat and never grow weak.
question #4
Both Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar because they both have an effect on people. Madame Schachter kept screaming fire and made people fills with terror and panick even when they know she's crazy. The Buddha made people follow him.His presense gave of a feeling of calm, peacefulness and also wisdom. They both gave off an effect on people but the difference is that they both have different effect on people.
question #5
Both Elie and Siddhartha reacted on what the Buddha and Madame Schachter had said. On page 22 in Night "... Look at it! Fire! A terrible fire..." Her screams of fire made people including Elie to react on terror and made them to panick. Her cries is harmful because it unnerves people and made people to beat her. The Buddha in the book Siddhartha also had an effect on the main character Siddhartha it's beneficial to him. True, Siddhartha found a few flaws with Buddha's teachings but Siddhartha also gained something: himself.
question #6
Elie reacted with terror and panick because of the unknown ahead of them and they were very stressed because what happened a few days ago. On top of that, there was eighty people all cramped together with little food. Siddhartha reacted this way because he didn't believe that people can "pierced to the innermost core of ego" with just a "teaching". He believed that to fully understand you have to experience it.
Question 1:
ReplyDeleteIn Siddhartha, the main character is seeking a way to find perfect bliss without learning. Since the beginning of the book, he’s been making decisions that have an affect some other people, but affect mostly himself. These decisions seem easy for him to make because the consequences will only be brought upon him. This book shows that it’s not so hard to make decisions that’ll mostly affect one self. In Night, all the Jewish people are put in groups in camps and are told to do things, sometimes forced to do things. But when they’re not forced they do what they are told without question. That’s because they know if they disobey the rules that all the Jews will be punished, even if it’s one person that didn’t do right. This book shows that it’s hard to make decisions if it’s going to affect a group.
Question 2:
Siddhartha decided to go look for Gautama because his friend Govinda asked him to. However his teacher didn’t approve and even so, Siddhartha continued with what he had decided. It was a good decision because his friend found a teacher and it was beneficial to him because he could now seek his own destiny without having to worry about what’s good or bad for himself and his friend. Eliezer’s decision to listen to the inmate and lie about his age was a good decision because he ended up going with his father to a place where they could eat and sleep with limited worries. If he decided to make his own decision and not lie, he could have ended up working or cremated. Instead he’s living off rations and getting enough sleep.
Question 3:
Siddhartha decided to continue his pilgrimage after hearing the Buddha speak. It was a good decision on his part because if he stayed where he was, he wouldn’t have found satisfaction in what he was doing. Being that he decided he’ll continue to look, he still has a chance to find that satisfaction he’s looking for. It was also good for him because if he stayed he would have frequently defied the great Buddha’s thinking and it could have caused a problem with him and other followers. Elie’s decisions when marching were all about him. He hid behind the other Jews when the Nazis used the whips and the batons. He didn’t want to get hit and put the rest at risk for his own safety. It was a good decision for him because he never got hit but for the others it was a bad decision.
Question 4:
ReplyDeleteThe Buddha in Siddhartha and Mrs. Schachter in Night are somewhat similar. They both have the ability to speak in front of a crowd, whether it’s on purpose or by mistake. The Buddha is making a speech because he teaches others who want to follow his footsteps, but Mrs. Schachter is performing differently. She’s gone mad and she sees an imaginary fire and begins to scream in the crowd, and even as the people disapprove, she continues. Also, they both have the ability to make people believe in what they’re saying. The Buddha is supposedly the only one that has reached perfect bliss and because of that, everyone applauds his teachings, but again, what happens with Mrs. Schachter is different. She screams for very long periods of time and even though nobody believes her anymore, when she decides to scream that’s there’s a fire again, everyone jumps up to look. She’s must incorporate a certain skill to make everyone believe her, as does the Buddha.
Question 5:
What’s similar about the way Elie reacts to Mrs. Schachter and how Siddhartha reacts to the Buddha is that at first, the person speaking in front of the crowd was believed by the main characters. As they went on, Elie started to not believe in anything the crazy woman said. Siddhartha also saw flaws in what the Buddha was saying after pondering all his teachings. He thought all the Buddha’s teachings were great, but eventually he didn’t believe him, as did Elie not believe Mrs. Schachter. Not believing in the Buddha was beneficial to Siddhartha because he could continue seeking true knowledge, and by himself because his friend finally found a teaching he would follow without Siddhartha. That’s good for Siddhartha because he now only has to worry about himself. The reaction for Elie was beneficial because he was wasting energy jumping up to look at a fire that wasn’t there. Instead of becoming fatigue so quickly, he could save his energy for whatever was later on.
Question 6:
Siddhartha reacts the way he does because he ponders the teachings of the Buddha instead of just following it like everyone else. He reacts the way he does because the Buddha is teaching and Siddhartha believes there is no such thing as teaching, just knowledge. He reacts in the way he does because he wasn’t coming to Gautama to learn in the first place, he just wanted to comfort his friend. Elie reacts the way he does because Mrs. Schachter has been screaming for a very long time and what she is saying is untrue according to everyone else’s eyes. He reacts the way he does because he’s tired of jumping up to see something that isn’t there. He also reacts the way he does, partially because the whole group reacts the same way, and it’s easy to be part of a group in hard times than to be an individual. The Jewish people needed to stick together because the times were hard and they only had each other, and that’s why Elie reacted the way he did.
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ReplyDeleteNIGHT and SIDDHARTHA , show the struggle between making a decision for the individual, rather than for the collective. Siddhartha struggles with the fact that he feels that everything he is learning is prolonging the path to reach Nirvana and that the Buddha has much more to offer him. Faced with two paths, Siddhartha reflects on his choices and thinks which one would aid him to succeeding his goals. Feeling that under the Buddha’s guidance, he will succeed greater and much quicker, it is Siddhartha’s own individual decision to leave the samanas and see the Buddha teach his people. In NIGHT, Elie struggles with his beliefs and what he sees around him. He faces the dark flames and sees children, as well as babies being burned alive. He begins to question his religion, as well his God. He cannot, at this point, feel that there is a God because of all the bad things that are happening in his life as well as others and God is doing nothing about it. It is under these feelings, that Elie has made an individual decision and has decided that his faith has now been consumed and that he will completely be numb of his religion.
QUESTION 2
In each book, the main characters are influenced by a group. In NIGHT, Elie is influenced by the brutality of the SS Gestapo and the horrors of the treatment of the Jews. It is during these terrors that he is influenced to turn away from his religion and his God. He soon becomes numb of his beliefs. He decides that the power of God isn’t enough compared to the brutality and force of the SS soldiers. His faith is now destroyed and he is a shell of his former self. In SIDDHARTHA, Siddhartha is influenced by Govinda’s story about the Buddha and Govinda’s suggestion about leaving the samanas. Leaving the samanas has been on Siddhartha’s mind well before this moment, and the fact that the samanas is not what Siddhartha hoped it would be doesn’t help either. This soon leads him to decide to leave the samanas, and go and watch the Buddha teach his people.
QUESTION 3
In each book the main characters are influenced by their own personal needs. In NIGHT, Elie’s primary need is his Father. More than anything in the world, he needs his Father. He’s the final connection to his family. It is due to this need that he lies to the German SS soldiers to remain with his Father and to stay with his final family member. I believe that it was both beneficial and harmful. It was beneficial because Elie remained with his Father and stayed with family, but at the same time it was harmful, because they were headed towards the crematory. In SIDDHARTHA, Siddhartha’s individual need is religion and Atman. It is due to that need, that he decides to not follow Buddha and to not join the fellowship. I again believe that it was both beneficial and harmful. It was beneficial, because Siddhartha was heading on a journey to find himself and he is following his own beliefs, nobody else’s. However, it is harmful, because Siddhartha is leaving Govinda, his long-time friend.
QUESTION 4
ReplyDeleteSchachter and Buddha are similar in many ways, but the thing that is the most similar about them is that they are both trying to share their knowledge and show people something that many do not know. Schachter is trying to show the Jews the fire, which does not exist. She yells, and screams and tries to show the people that there is harm awaiting them if they do not listen to her. Similarly, Buddha is trying to show his followers that there is a world out there that they do not know and that he is trying to share his knowledge with his people, as Schachter is trying to share hers. As well, both Schachter and Buddha both have visions.
QUESTION 5
Elie and Siddhartha react similarly to Schachter and Buddha. They both react with a sense of disbelief. Elie wonders why Schachter is screaming and questions her actions. He believes she is crazy and this is beneficial to him because it helps him feel better to think he is safe and she is mad. Siddhartha questions Buddha’s ability to teach him anything that he did not already know. This is beneficial to him because it gives him more confidence and makes him believe that he is closer to Nirvana.
QUESTION 6
Siddhartha reacts this way, because he is disturbed by what he thinks are mistakes in Buddha’s teachings. I think that Siddhartha believes that he knows more than him, in some aspects. Elie reacts this way, because he has never seen someone act that how Schachter does. I believe that Elie wonders why someone would go that far and continue to act in a certain way, after they are continuously beaten and whipped. Even though he feels safe he still gets a sense of fear from her detailed ravings.
Question #1
ReplyDeleteThe decisions made as a individual is shown in the book , Siddhartha , Siddhartha choose the decision to become a samana and he was willing to give up Hinduism to go learn about the path of the samanas. As a individual he choses to make this choice for his own benefits and out of his own will. Siddhartha was thinking of himself than others. But when making decisions for the whole group, you have to know the consequences that might happen to your team mate if you decide on a choice that may hurt your team mate. In the book, Night, Elie was forced to go into a concentration camp, therefore creating whole groups of Jews. They had to make decisions as a whole group because they knew what the consequences were. There couldn't be a reckless decision made because that would hurt the group. When it comes down to individual decisions versus decisions for a whole group, it is better to make your own choice rather than a group decision. Some of the Jews in the concentration camp wanted to get out as soon as possible and were willing to give up their lives for the freedom of others, but the majority of the other Jews reminded the others about their belief and that they shouldn't give up hope when all is lost.
Question #2
Siddhartha made the decision to become a samana and to follow the path of the samanas. At the time Siddhartha was not thinking about the other people he would be affecting, he was just thinking of himself and his own thirst of knowledge. Siddhartha wanted to know more outside the Hindu religion and so he took action and decided he had to become a samana.It was a good decision for Siddhartha because it shows that he is growing and is eager to learn new experiences that no other Brahmin has ever seen. This was a beneficial decision for Siddhartha because he is able to fulfill his desire of knowledge. Elie made the decision to follow the Germans rather than rebelling like the others that he had seen. He saw the horror others faced and their misery, no longer was he a innocent child anymore. When he entered the concentration camp he had lost his innocence and had to become a man. This decision would be bad, but he had no choice. This was a harmful decision because he was treated poorly.
Question # 3
ReplyDeleteSiddhartha wanted to expand his knowledge of the outside world that no Brahmin knew about, so he set out to become a samana. He chose this decision because he felt that he was no filled, a empty jar. This was beneficial for Siddhartha because he is able to fulfill his need for knowledge. Elie made a decision to stay with his family and end up in the concentration camp. He had the decision to go into a safety shelter, offered by Maria, a former maiden of their family. But Elie decided to stay with his family because his father wouldn't approve of his decision to leave the family. This was a harmful decision because he put his life on the line because the Germans were going to capture him and put him in a concentration camp.
Question #4
Madame Schachter and the Buddha are similar by they can perform miracles. Madame Schachter had a dream where she saw fire and smoke in the air which later on became a true sight for Elie. The Buddha is said to have performed miracles on his travels and a very knowledgeable person. They both share the ability to perform miracles. The Buddha was said to have talked with gods, I think Madame Schachter talked to god when she was dreaming and god gave her a vision of burning flames and smokes in the air. They are both very religious and take into consideration their religion, which affects how they behave and their actions.
Question #5
Elie's reaction towards Madame Schachter is shocking and speechless. He did not know people could go crazy. It was a first experience for Elie to see a crazy lady having nightmares of fury flames and smokes. While, Siddhartha first heard of the Buddha, he was excited because he heard so much about him and his abilities to heal others. Siddhartha really wanted to meet him since he wanted to understand Buddha's wisdom in order to fulfill his thirst for knowledge. The similarities between Elie and Siddhartha's reactions is emotional. They both felt a emotion when Elie met the Madame Schachter and when Siddhartha me the Buddha. This is beneficial since they are both experiencing something they never felt before.
Question # 6
ReplyDeleteElie's reaction towards Madame Schachter is shocking because he had never seen someone go mad before. He thought all the Jews were civilized beings according to his belief of Judaism. This disproved his belief of all Jews being civilized beings. Siddartha's reaction towards hearing about the Buddha was exciting because he believed that the Buddha will fulfill his emptiness. He needs him to teach him more because he doesn't feel being a samana can fulfill his emptiness.
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ReplyDeleteIn Siddhartha, he choose to go listen to the Buddha's Teaching with his friend, Govinda and this was decide by the both of them. In Night, Elie want go just go charge into the electric barbed wire and suicide, but he didn't do because he wants to live and this was a decision make by himself.
Question 2:
Siddhartha choose to go listen to the Buddha's Teaching with Govinda, it was harmful because he end up losing his best friend, making him felt that he just got robbed. In Night, the young men decide to go on a revolt, but then after their fathers add in they chose not to because it is very foolish, it is a good thing because they might end up losing their lives.
Question 3:
Siddhartha choose to let Govinda to become the Buddha's disciple and it was both good and bad because Govinda have choose a path by himself without following after Siddhartha and Siddhartha lost his friend. In Night, Elie choose to to survive instead of suicide and it is a good thing because people always want to live not to die.
Question 4:
They are similar because they affect the people around. In Madame Schachter's case, people were filled with terror because she keep screaming fire making people scared and hard to sleep even after such a hard time. In Buddha's case, people end up being his follower after hearing his Teachings and everyone think that he is the perfect one.
Question 5:
Elie react speechlessly and shockingly towards Mrs. Schachter because she was screaming, causing ruckus and made people can't fall asleep. Siddhartha react with admiration because he admires the way Buddha explain the chain of circle. To Siddhartha it is beneficial, but to Elie is not because Elie can't sleep and the environment is very bad as well which make it worst.
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Elie react this way because he never seen someone screaming like a mad man before and it was keeping him up throughout the nights. Noise might as well be terrifying too. Siddhartha react this way because the way Buddha explains the chain is very soothing and easily understandable. His teaching make him more content which can make him admire Buddha more.
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ReplyDeleteMany different decisions have been presented in both books, Siddhartha and Night. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes a decision with his friend, Govinda to go hear the Buddha’s teachings. However in the book, Night, Elie wasn’t able to make many decisions except follow his father. There were no decisions Elie had to make as a group with the other men, because they only had orders to listen to, and commands to follow.
Questions #2
Main characters in both books have shown to make decisions collectively. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes a positive decision in joining the samanas with his friend, Govinda. It becomes a good decision, because throughout the stay, they learn more things, and learn how to control their needs and wants. In Night, Elie decides to stay with his father, because his father is the only person in his family that’s suffering with him together. Elie staying with his father was a good decision, because if he didn’t, he wouldn’t be able to see anyone from his family anymore.
Question #3
In Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes the choice of leaving his good friend, Govinda. He needed to find out what he needed to do alone in order to accomplish what his destiny holds for him in the future. Being independent, making this decision would do well to Siddhartha, because he would be able to see if he could do things independently. In Night, because he was hungry, Elie decided to eat all his food at once when he got the daily supply of food. However, not as beneficial as Siddhartha’s decision would be, Elie’s decision of eating all his food led his father into giving a negative comment on what his son had done. So, this was a bad decision for Elie.
Question #4
Madame Schachter and Buddha have pretty much one thing in common: they both provide people with information. First off, everyone in Madame Schachter’s area hears her scream about the “fire” she’s seeing. Everyone doesn’t believe her until they arrive at the concentration camp, where they see the fire that Madame Schachter’s been screaming about, becomes something real. Buddha teaches many people many things a day, a week, a year, whenever. Buddha teaches Siddhartha, Govinda and many others about the issue, suffering.
Question #5
In Night, when Elie heard Madame Schachter screaming about the fire, he was astonished. Feeling this way didn’t benefit Elie at all, because nothing happened, all he did was just sit there and wonder if she was going crazy. In Siddhartha, when Siddhartha and Buddha are commenting about what each other had said, Siddhartha feels surprised. Being surprised like that had allowed Siddhartha to gain experience to wanting to do what Buddha had done, so, it was good for Siddhartha.
Question #6
Elie reacts the way he does, because Madame Schachter screamed all of a sudden and of course one would look at someone if they were screaming loudly about something. But there was nothing Elie could’ve done, so he sat still and watched as most other people did. Siddhartha reacts the way he does, because Buddha doesn’t usually comment back and forth on a topic with an individual like he did with Siddhartha. Siddhartha’s surprised he actually commented back on what he had to say about the Buddha’s teachings.
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ReplyDeleteIn the book Siddhartha you see how hard it was for Govinda and Siddhartha to part ways. Govinda made the decission based on what he wanted and what he thought Siddhartha would want and it was hard for the two of them to part ways because Govinda made an independant decission which is a monarchy type of decission. The decission that Govinda made can also be conssidered collective because he based it upon the intrests of him and of Siddhartha. It was hard for Govinda to leave his childhood friend. In the book night elie ponders the decission of wheather to charge into the electric fence of Auschwitz but then decides to live and that decission was an individual decission because he had no influence towards the choice, it was hard for elie to decide this because he just wanted to die instead of be a prissioner. In every book there are decissions to be made and some will be individual or collective based on the situation at hand.
Question 2
The decission to leave the Smanas was based on the collective of both Siddhartha and of Govinda because they both wanted to find a new path to Nivarna. This decission was good because they both felt like finding a new path and abandoning the path of the samanas. In Night the decission to tie up madame Schachter was based on the collective because she was a pain to everyone for her yelling. Siddhartha and Govinda's decission to follow a new path will benifit themselves because they can now do as they please. The decission of Elie to tie up madame Schachter beniffited them for the time being because they could try to sleep.
Question 3
An Individual decission mad eby Siddhartha was to leave his friend Govinda. this decission was benificial to him because he can now follow his own path to Nivarna. The decission of Elie to not run into the electric fence was an independant decission because no one tried to stop him from wnting to do it. The decission benifited him for now because he would live. Decissions made individualy are easy because you are the only one affected.
Question 4
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar because people belive what they say. In Night Schachter screams that there is a fire outside and everyone looks and belives her. In Siddhartha Buddha says somehting and they belive what he says even if it is not true. People believe them because they do not know if it is true so they belive it. People do not question them because they do not know if it is true and they want something to belive in. People need to look for their own path of belives as Siddhartha does.
Question 5
Elie's reaction to Sachacter was surprising and strange because he is supposed to be civilized. the reaction was benificial because he could now have some peace. Siddhartha's reaction to Buddha was kind because he respected what the Buddha said. The reaction was benificial because he could now follow his own path. A decission and reaction are bassed on your needs and not someone elses.
Question 6
Elie reacts this way because Sacachater was going crazy which annoyed everyone in the train car. He reacted this way hopefully to knock some sense in to her. Siddhartha reacts this way because he wants his own path. He does this for he feels that he will not get anywhere with buddha's teachings and needs his own to follow. They base thier reactions on their needs.
Question #1
ReplyDeleteIn Siddhartha, it focuses more on the decisions of an individual. Siddhartha struggles with trying to find a path that would lead him to his ultimate goal of separating from his ego. He and Govinda first are accepted into the samana. From this, Siddhartha has already learned all he needs to know from them, after going in a vicious circle, unable to truly separate from his ego. He then makes the decision to hear the Buddha’s teachings. He learns of the Four Nobel Truths and the Eightfold Path. Without doubt, there is no better teaching than this according to Siddhartha. Alas, he cannot follow Guatama. Siddhartha’s real inner struggle is to know himself so joining the Buddha and several hundred others would not be a useful thing. Thus, when he separates from Govinda he finally is able to become his own person. If anything this was also beneficial to Govinda, who was always Siddhartha’s shadow. Even though parting was somewhat difficult for the both of them, it was a wise decision. Both of them now can obtain their own goals.
In Night, Elie has really no say in decisions other than be killed or stick with the others. During the ride to Birkenau there was a limited amount of food for the large number of people. So the group decided to “economize”, sharing the food equally which was not enough to satisfy their hunger. While in the Gypsy camp, they were ordered to stand in the mud after having such a busy day. They had no option rather than to stand or stand when the inspector came around in fear that he would kill every single one of them. Both situations show a sacrifice of personal needs in order for group benefits.
Question #2
Siddhartha’s collective decisions were to, firstly, join the samana with Govinda. This was a good learning experience for Govinda, but it was not enough for Siddhartha. Then they made the decision to leave the samana to listen to the teachings from the Buddha. The Buddha’s teachings were nothing like anything else they learned. What they learned from the Buddha was enriching for the both of them. Elie’s collective decision was to stay with his father instead of the grim option of running into the electric fence in a blaze of glory. Another option was to go with his mother, sister, and the other boys his age. This was most likely a bad idea because His mother and sister are probably dead by now. This can be inferred from the public burnings of women and children. Overall, it was a wise decision not to end his life so quickly to make room for some emotional development and most importantly, for people to have the opportunity to hear his story. Also for his father, the idea that he can at least supervise one member of his family and know he is alive is settling. Elie can also provide his fare share of strength for the rest of the group.
Question #3
Siddhartha’s decision to leave and find his own experiences was an individual decision made for both of them to become their own people. Govinda had always lived in Siddhartha’s shadow. This was apparently crippling for Siddhartha to reflect. Govinda finally made his own decision to join the Buddha while Siddhartha decided to take what he learned and venture forward trying to separate from his ego by learning from his experiences. Elie’s individual decision was to lie about his age and occupation. This was of course as beneficial as can be. Elie could only study and was young. The likelihood of them not killing him if he told the truth was very low. Even though this decision came with the consequence of working long hours with little food and a fear of death if not obedient, it is still better than dying early without the hope of survival.
Question #4
ReplyDeleteMadam Schachter and Guatama share certain things in common. The Guatama had his fair share of disbelievers and critics. Although through meeting him, one could tell of his great wisdom and his teachings being absolutely right, for the most part. Also the way he carries himself and his mannerisms are just as one would expect from one who has reached Nirvana. Mrs. Schachter’s husband and older sons were deported early. This bought her to a state of grief and one could argue a state of madness. Every night she screamed that there was a fire. All though in the beginning, it was an annoyance due to the fact that there were no fires and that she would scream in the middle of the night. People would go through such lengths as beat her and tie her down in order to stop her blasphemy. Once they arrive though, they also witness the horror she saw every night. In a moment of prophetic glory they finally realized that she was right and there were flames engulfing the whole area. Both were disbelieved in what they preached but in two different ways were they both shown as all knowing of what to come.
Question #5
Elie and Siddhartha share the same reaction when confronted with the Buddha and Mrs. Schachter. Both hear their claims, some more directly than others and reply critically to them. Albeit, at first Elie and the others believe Mrs. Schachter and run to the window to see a fire, but as time passed they grew more annoyed and less trusting. Siddhartha’s doubt began as early as when talk started about the Buddha. But once he actually saw the Buddha and heard his teachings was he more entranced by the Buddha’s nature. In Elie’s situation, his doubt that grew over time was a bad one since it ended up as accurate as can be. In Siddhartha’s situation, it was completely called for to be critical of someone who claims to have reached Nirvana. If anything, his realization of him being wrong and that his ideas were the best that can be learned is more of a hopeful, lively experience.
Question #6
Elie believed Mrs. Schachter at first and ran to the window to see if it was a fire because if someone screams fire, then it’s likely that anyone would react. When faced with immediate danger, one must react to try and stop it. But when time went by and the redundant cries were less and less believed it was a situation of “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”. This analogy can perfectly express why he acted the way he did later on. After some time, the townspeople no longer believed the boy’s cries for attention until an actual wolf came and ate the sheep. When the group arrived at Birkenau they realized that Mrs. Schachter’s cries of a fire indeed came true.
In Siddhartha’s situation, the idea of someone such as the Buddha is farfetched from the beginning. A man at complete peace with himself and the knowledge to stop the endless cycle of reincarnation was almost unheard of. Also at this time, Siddhartha is filled with a cynicism and complete discontent on how the world is a lie and all. This would make a person more pessimistic, believe it or not. It couldn’t possibly be true that a person could live happy in the world as how they viewed it. But at the moment when he first saw Guatama in the crowd of monks, everything he did was proof that he was a real deal Buddha.
1. Night and Siddhartha demonstrate a turing point in which the main characters made strategic decisions affecting both themselves and peers. These decisions portray the characters to be irrational yet both characters have grown indepent along the way. In chapter 2 of Siddhartha, Siddhartha has boldy choose to become a samanaagainst his father's will and destroyed his family fortune. Siddhartha's choice to be a samana has affected his life greatly for he reveals a sense of individuality. Along the road Govinda, and Siddhartha come to a disagreement in which Siddhartha must make the choice to walk along his own path or succeed an understanding with his friend. In conclusion, Siddhartha has left his friend behind, discovering his inner self ,and strength. In chapter 2 of Night, Elie struggled within himself to take control of the on going situation by following the groups desicion to beat the screaming the woman. Collectively,he has saved himself and peers from salvation which resulted towards a positive outcome. Though towards the end of chapter 3, Elie shows his fear by pondering the thought of killing himself. We as readers can grasp the understanding that both characters overcame many situations though later realize the great effect it has on themselves and their peers.
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ReplyDeleteIn the books Siddhartha and Night show how they struggle between making individual decisions. Siddhartha made an individual decision which was that him and Govinda chose their own paths when they meet Buddha, Govinda wanted to stay with Buddha instead of staying with Siddhartha because he made up his own mind not to follow the Buddha’s path. In Night Elie made an individual decision to stick and follow his father which probably saved his life. There was rarely any collective decisions between the Jews and Nazis because they were control by the Nazis.
Question #2
In both stories Siddhartha and Night make collective decisions that were good decisions. Siddhartha and Govinda his best friend went together to hear the teaching of Buddha which was a good decisions because lead them to get more knowledge. Elie and his father decide to listen to a man that told them to lie about their age and they did which was good decision because if they didn’t they probably would be separated or in different camps.
Question #3
In the books Elie made an individual decision because at first he didn’t want to eat any of the food the camp severed but then it became beneficial because he started to eat if he didn’t he would get really weak and die. Siddhartha didn’t make a beneficial decision by following his own path and him and Govinda separated to go on different paths.
Question #4
Mrs. Schachter and Buddha are similar because they both trying to tell people things and prove their points. When Elie is heading to the camp and sees Mrs. Schachter saying that she sees fire but no one believes her in till they go to the camp and see that the fire happening when people are being brunt. Buddha tells his teaching so people can follow and people do end up following it and believe they reach Nirvana through his teaching.
Question #5
Elie reacting to Mrs. Schachter was beneficial because when Mrs. Schachter was getting hit by the men for what she believed for. Elie did believe her, but if he were to be in her side he would get hit too. For Siddhartha became beneficial because he gain knowledge from Buddha.
Question #6
Elie reacted the way he did because he beloved Mrs. Schachter what she was saying the way she screaming but felt bad for her the way she was being treated but didn’t want to be treated like her too. Siddhartha acted the way he did because he started not to believe in Buddha’s teaching and he wasn’t being impressed by it.
2. In the novel Night, Elie has comeforth to stand strong for his family throughout this harsh journey. In Chapter 3, Elie blantly lied to his distant relative to keep the peace within the group. For the group's sake, Elie helped to capture a calm mood as well as encouraging his fellow peers. By doing so Elie and his family dicovered happiness even though they barely are surviving under crusal times. In the novel Siddhartha, Siddhartha struggled to find peace within himself and continue to suffer amoug the group of samanas. Idealy the only way to relieve his pain was to leave the group and depart himself from the samana leader. By doing so, Siddhartha has overpast hatred for himself and his close friend, Govinda. This desicion was beneficial for Siddhartha, for he has been given the oppurtunity to start a new, fresh journey into salvation.
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ReplyDeleteIn the book Night, Elie makes and individual decision to stay with his father rather than to jump into the electrified barbed wire and die. Elie makes the decision to suffer and stay with his father through all of the pain and hell the Germans put them through. He stayed with the collective decision rather than to make the individual decision of suicide.
In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes the individual decision to let his good friend and follower Govinda go and follow the teachings of the Buddah. They both made the collective decision to go and hear the wise words of the Buddah, but Siddhartha made the individual decision to stay with the samanas.
Question 2:
In each book, each main character made several decisions based on the collective. In the book Siddhatha, Siddhartha and his good friend and follower Govinda made the collective decision to go and hear the well spoken of teachings of the Buddah. This collecive decision was good for Siddhartha. It let him explore more and add more to his knowledge.
In the book Night, Elie made a collective decision in the concentration camp. Rather then fighting back and trying to get out of there, he stuck with his family and do as the Germans say. He would put up with the touture and abuse of the Germans just so that no one else would get killed because of his actions.
Question 3:
In each book the main character made some decisions based on the individual need rather than collective. In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha made the individual decision to stay with the samanas rather than go with his good friend Govinda and follow the teachings of the Buddah. This individual decision was beneficial not only to Siddhartha but to his good friend Govinda. Govinda was always a follower of Siddhartha and always made collective decisons with him. But, now Govinda for the first time made an individual decision for himself to go and follow the Buddah. This makes Siddhartha's individual decision beneficial.
In the book Night, Elie decided not to eat the soup and continue to be the same picky person with food. But after a few days, Elie grew very hungary and then started eating whatever was providied. This benefited him through the fact that he is becoming a man and is not being childish anymore. He will not die of hunger, he will live and survive in the concentration camp on his own choice.
Question 4:
ReplyDeleteIn both books one noticeable character is similar, Madame Schachter in Night and Buddah in Siddhartha. Madame Schachter was someone who was in the same cattle car as Elie and was known to be crazy. She would yell every night, screaming of sights of fire. Jews would look out the car and see nothing every night but still continued to look every time she brought it to their attention.
In the book Siddhartha, a character named Buddah would be heard of all around town and his wise words would be spread quickly, quickly enough that he had a large group of his own followers with him.
The similarity between Madame Schachter and Buddah is that they both are perople who draw attention. The Buddah's wise words and Madame Schachter's screams both brought a large amount of attention to the people around them.
Question 5:
Elie reacts to Madame Schachter by listening to her and believing there was fire but when he look there was not any. He soon started to ignore her screams and the group of Jews would start to Gag her. In Siddhartha, he and his good friend Govinda react to the rumors of the Buddah by actually telling the Samanas they are leaving to hear his word. There reactions were similar because they would actually go and see for themselves what is going on. Just as Elie went to look for fire and Siddhartha went to go hear the well talked about rumors of the Buddah's wise words.
Question 6:
Each character in each book has their own reason for their reactions to Madame Schachter and Buddah. In the book Night, Elie reacts to Madame Schachter's screams and yells of fire by looking for it. He does this because he has no idea where he and the other Jews in the cattle car are going. He does not know weather it is good or bad. If he did see some fire as the screams say, he would atleast have a glimpse of what is going on and where they are heading.
In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha reacts to the rumors of the Buddah by actually going and hearing his wise words in person. He does this because he still does have a large thirst for knowledge no matter what happens
and still has some unanswered questions. He must react this way to try to find his innerself.
3. Siddhartha has looked within himself to find happiness and continued to do what he thought was right. By leaving his home and having the freedom to grasp the understanding for other religions,Siddhartha has grown to have individuality. As well as makin the choice to leave the samana group, Siddhartha has revealed independence, and justice for his own sake. Without the strength and couarge to make these decisions, Siddhartha would continue to suffer and feel no joy within himself. In the novel Night, Elie follows rough paths along the way and makes stragetic desicioms based on his inner being and courage. By disobeying his father and following a Cabala religion he has dicovered a deeper view of the religion aspect. This is a result of self satisfactory though can cause a harmful relationahip with his father.
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ReplyDeleteIn the book SIDDHARTHA, an individual decision was when Siddhartha choices to give up everything he has, family/home to follow the ways of a samana. A collective decision was when Siddhartha left Govinda to stay with Buddha because he thought he had learned a lot already. In the book NIGHT, an individual decision was when Elie lied about his age just to stay with his father. A collective decision was when all the Jewish people obeyed to do what they were told. If they didn't, they knew that they would have to be punished.
Question #2
In the book SIDDHARTHA, Siddhartha had to decide to leave Govinda to learn from Buddha because he thought it was best from his friend. In my opinion, it was not the best choice to choose because he had to leave behind someone that obeyed him. In the book NIGHT, Elie's collective decision was to listen to the man that told all the Jewish people what to do. That would've been a better choice that disobeying because they suffer the consequences.
Question #3
In the book SIDDHARTHA. Siddhartha decided to leave his family in order to become a samana. It was a beneficial decision because it allowed Siddhartha to expand his mind and learn more. In the book NIGHT, Elie decided to stay with his family. This was a very harmful decision because they were went to concentration camps, where they have to work long hours and little food/clothes.
Question #4
Madame Schacter and Buddha are similar because they didn't let other peoples observation effect their life. Madame Schacter was called "insane" and "crazy" but she still moved on. Buddha was being commented about his teaching to Siddhartha. He continued with his own teaching and ignored Siddhartha.
Question #5
Elie and Siddhartha reacted to Schachter and Buddha is annoyance. Elie thought Schacter was insane and was speechless against her. Siddhartha ignored Buddha when Buddha was trying to convince him to stop being a samana. In my opinion, both of them were not beneficial because they would not been affected either way.
Question #6
In the book SIDDHARTHA, Siddhartha thought Buddha was perfect but soon later, he had doubts/questions about him. Siddhartha thinks too much and thought he should been a samana. In the book NIGHT, Elie thought for the first time, that there was really a fire when Schachter screamed. Later on, Elie formed a weird feeling when he is around her.
4. Madame Schahter and Buddha are similar becuase they represent the strong foundation of what Buddha is trying to teach. Madame Schahter desired her family, for her desperately wanted her family to come back home. As a result this urgency has caused her to suffer. Buddha highly staes people who desire end up suffering towards the end. Buddha has molded this idea for he does not desire reaching nirvana, peace.
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ReplyDeleteThe main characters of Siddhartha and Night, Siddhartha and Elie, make many difficult descisions. These descisions were both individual-based and collectively-based. In the book Siddartha, Siddhartha made a individaul descision when he decided to leave his friend Govinda, to be with the Samanas. In Night, Elie and the people of his religion used collective decision making a lot in the story. The Jewish families that were alive in Night made a group decision. They made the decision to work instead of die. This shows individual-based and collectively-based decisions in both books Siddartha and Night.
Question 2
In both books Siddartha and Night, the charcaters made collective decisions. In the book Siddartha, Siddhartha and Govinda made a collective decision to leave the samanas to go listen to the Buddha's teachings. For Govinda this choice was a good decision, but for Siddhartha he continued going and left Govinda. In Night, both Elie and his father made a collective decision to listen to the man, if they didn't they most likely wouldnt have gotten to where they are now.
Question 3
Both Siddartha and Elie make individual decisions, that effect them in both good and bad ways. Siddhartha's individual decision was leaving the group he's with so he can learn more about religion and himself. I think this was beneficial for Siddhartha because moving gave hime the chance to find himself and become his own person. Elie's individual decision was that he chose to go with his dad instead of stay with his mom. I think this is beneficial, because he has his father by his side. Showing the benefits of individual decisions in Siddartha and Night.
Question 4
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar in many ways, one being they believe life is based on suffering. Buddha teaches that life is suffering, and Madame Schachter showed life is suffering as well and example of this is when she freaked out while she was on the train. Therefore, they both think and feel as if life is based on suffering, showing their similarities.
Question 5
Elie and Siddartha's reactions to Madame Schachter and Buddha were both similar and beneficial. Elie was shocked because Madame Schachter was going crazy over a fire that was not even there.Siddhartha was shocked because Buddha was upset about something Siddhartha said. This was beneficial to Siddartha and Elie because they were able to learn more about themselves and Madame Schachter and Buddha.
Question 6
Siddartha and Elie are both shocked. Siddartha for one is shocked because he didnt expect Buddha to react as upset as he was. Siddartha didnt think it would be a ongoing situation. Elie on the other hand was shocked because what Madame Schachter did was out of the norm because its not everyday somebody screams "Fire". Showing their reasoning for acting the way they did.
Question 1
ReplyDeleteIn the book, Siddhartha, Siddhartha tackles a tough individual decision. After he has chosen his path with the Samana's, he decides that their teaching and practices are not ones he chooses to follow. Siddhartha and his friend Govinda go and make a group decision to follow the teachings of the Buddha. govinda is fascinated and decides to follow his path with the Buddha, while Siddhartha decides this path is not for him either. Siddhartha and Govinda go their seperate ways. In Night, Elie decides to stick besides his father when they arrived at Auschwitz. he also decided to listen to the prisoner when he arivved. if elie would have not said he was 18, they would have sent him to be killed. Since he lied about his age, he gets to work and stay besides his father.
Question 2
Siddhartha made good decisions based on the collective decisions he had. Siddhartha had given up his beliefs to follow the way of the Samanas with his friend Govinda. He then decided that the Samanas practices just was not was he was looking for. Again Siddhartha and Govinda had left a belief and this time to follow the teaching of the Buddha. Here, Siddhartha decided that this was also not his path. Govinda had clearly seen that this was the path meant for him, and Siddhartha had helped so he could make a decision on his own. Now Siddhartha continues to seek his rightful path. Elie's collective decison was a good decision. Instead of going with his mother and all the children his age, he stood with his father. The kids were not suitable for work, so they could have been placed in the furnace like the children Elie saw when entering Auschwitz. This gave Elie Wiesel the chance to live.
Question 3
Siddhartha, after having a talk with the Buddha made him continue his journey for his destiny. This benefited him. If Siddhartha had stayed with the Buddha and Govinda he would have been unsatisfied. If he left with the Samana's and the Buddha, its because his journey is a puzzle which he has yet learned to solve. Elie's decison benefited him aswell. At Auschwitz, what could they do with a child? Nothing. Therefor, the decision to lie about his age and what he does for a living spared him. Now he did not go straight to the furnace.
5. In the novel Night, Elie reacted by following the view of what the people thought of Madame Schahter after she had alerted the group of the fire. Though later Elie found out that the fire was a real warning and his decision was not so beneficial. In the novel Siddhartha, Siddhartha had confronted Buddha about his speech, and made rash marks towards the Buddha. Siddhartha didnt see the clear picture of what Buddha was tryin to teach, for Siddhartha later discovers more about his inner being and as well as from the Buddha.
ReplyDelete6. In the novel NIght, Elie's first reaction was to respond to the Madames cries, though the villagers did not care for her warning and blantly ignored her alert. Her constant cries were apparent towards the end of the chapter for there was really a fire. Though Elie had followed the view of the villagers and ignored her warning the thrid time around.
In the novel Siddhartha, Siddhartha has still much inner discovering to do, for he confronts the Buddha about his speech to only visualy grasp the concept of Buddha's understanding. Siddhartha distressed and completely discontent would have no mind to fully comprehened the meaning of Buddha's word, for he reacted as so. Siddhartha wanted to fully explain his reason for joining the Buddha along this journey.
Question 4
ReplyDeleteMadam Schachter and Guatama are very much alike. Guatama was a man of wisdom. he was the Buddha. Although many people respect him, there were a few who did not believe him. either way, he still spread his teaching and wisdom to everyone who was a believer. Madam Schachter also tried to get her point across. She was separated from her family very early. This made her insane. Every night she would scream "fire!" and she would point out the window. the others checked to see nothing, so they stuck and gagged her until they heard no more. Until one last day she scream fire and there they stood staring at the fire from the furnace at Auschwitz.
Question 5
Both Siddhartha and Elie reacted to what they heard from Madam Schachter and the Buddha. Siddhartha was fascinated by what the Buddha said, until he figured something out. There were flaws in what he was saying. Elie at first believed what Madam Schachter was saying when she screamed fire on the wagon. Every time she would say it, he would get up and look. Eventually he stopped looking, to a point where he didn't even care. Both characters started with a sense of hope in both of these people. but as time went on they lost their faith in them,
Question 6
Siddhartha had reacted that way because he saw that the Buddha was not making sense. He felt as his faith in him was slowly burning out like a lit candle. The flaws that he found should be fixed. he told the Buddha to find Knowledge and to learn why he does what he does as a teacher and as someone who reach Nirvana. Siddhartha acted this way because he was astonished.
Elie had reacted that way for he saw that Madam Schachter was going mad. When the woman would yell fire he would look. Again, she screamed and he would look. Eventually he got to a point where he knew there was no fire outside so he blocked her out. It's as if she wasn't there. Elie was tired of hearing her scream, to find nothing.
Question #1:
ReplyDeleteBoth stories displays how the main characters struggles between making decision for the individual versus making decisions for the collective. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha struggles between staying with his friend, Govinda, and following the Teachings or to go on his own so he could lessen his thirst for knowledge which seems to be his suffering. He had to choice to continue a friendship or to go on his path to Nirvana. In Night, Elie had to struggle to make all of her decisions. They were hard decisions like choosing his mother & working for little food but it was the right choice for his survival,
Question #2:
In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha made collective decisions that gave a positive outcome to him & his friend Govinda. The first decision was the first which was to join the samana. This helped for him & Govinda to expand their knowledge as they learn to meditate, control their thirst, & breathe deeply to conserve energy. This choice would’ve lead them to Nirvana. The other decision was to leave the samana & go see the Buddha which was a great experience for both of them. In Night, Elie made the decision to lie of his age just so he could stay with his father. If he hadn’t done such an action of lying he & his father would’ve been separated then burnt into ashes as he wasn’t the appropriate age to work.
Question #3:
From collective decisions, an individual decision will eventually occur. In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha made a harmful choice which, to my thoughts, ended his friendship with Govinda. As opposed to continuing the path of learning the Teachings of the Buddha, He left his friend to continue alone as he went on his own path that will or will not help his desire for knowledge. This was beneficial because he wants to choose the right path & if he continued with something he didn’t want to be apart of, he would continue to thrive for knowledge and would drastically affect him. In Night, Elie made an individual choice of staying with his dad instead of going with his mother. This was a beneficial choice because of his fathers consideration towards him & would’ve survived with his father.
Question #4:
ReplyDeleteMadame Schachter and Buddha are similar because they both give the main characters a second thought on their action. In Siddhartha, Buddha’s teachings appeared flawless from the eyes of Siddhartha. That was until he had one disagreement which lead him to go his separate way. Siddhartha saw one flaw in his teaching that gave him the individual decision to leave. In Night, Madame Schachter was a mother that had her child and her husband taken away from her. She would repeat that she discovered a fire. At first everyone would believe her but then they started to ignore her, call her names & eventually attack her. So in conclusion, Both Madame Schachter & Buddha was two characters that thought to have imperfection in their words as they were ignored or disapproved by the main characters of the story.
Question #5:
The similarities of both Siddhartha & Elie on how they reacted to Schachter & Buddha was their disapproval in what was told by them. In Siddhartha, Buddha’s Teaching was viewed as perfection to Siddhartha, but then one of those Teachings seemed to change Siddhartha’s perception that lead to his departure. In Night, Elie was pained at what occurred to Madame Schachter. Then she would begin her fire rants as Elie would believe its her hallucinating due to lack of water & air in their surroundings. But when the false alarms continued, Elie & others would ignore her because of her “lie”. Even though ishe ignores her she still understands that the pain deep inside has caused her to act this way. Their actions seemed to be beneficial because ,in Siddhartha, Siddhartha seemed to lose his friend but gain a big part as he learns more of himself. Then in Night, Elie has deep concerns for Madame Schachter but he doesn’t wants to be attacked like her so he just sits and watch her get beaten.
Question #6:
Siddhartha reacts this way because he wants to reach to the stage of Nirvana on the right path that he truly believes is correct. So instead of continuing to learn about Buddha’s teachings, he first confronts Buddha that he notices flaws in one of his teachings & that he must go on his own path not that his teachings are bad but he wants to get to the end rightfully. In Night, Elie acts this way towards Madame Schachter’s chants because she sees that there is no fire out there but she continues to scream that there is one. But instead of him to brazen out for her, he just ignores her like everyone else just so she wouldn’t get attacked like Schachter.
Question 1:
ReplyDeleteIn the book Siddhartha, while Govinda and Siddhartha are on the journey along with the samanas they then decide to go listen to one of Gautama’s teachings. After listening to one of his teachings, Govinda then decides to join him to end all suffering and Siddhartha makes a decision not to because he finds there to be a gap in his teaching (pg31) and in this case he wishes to go on his own. He left his friend Govinda but feels “robbed” because Buddha took his friend that believed in him along the way, who became his shadow but who is now Gautama’s, he finally gets himself in the end which considers to have more of. Siddhartha struggles with this decision because Govinda been there a long time because they grew up together and going their separate paths would be difficult but in the end he finds a way to make this decision because Govinda finally choses his own path after always being a step behind him(pg27) which he’s happy about. On the other hand, in Night, Elie along with other Jews, were brought to concentration camps due to different beliefs, but when they arrive to Auschwitz women are put on one side and men are put on the other. Before being asked their age, a prisoner tells both Elie and his father to lie about their age, he tells Elie to say he’s eighteen, while being fifteen and tells his father to say he’s forty although he’s fifty. Elie and his father have the choice on whether or not telling the truth, which they don’t in order to stay together. After being separated from his mother and sisters he chooses to stick by his dad because he didn’t want to be left alone. Each of the characters have struggles which cause them to make the decisions they do, but in the end they make them because it’s what they wanted for themselves.
Question 2:
Based on the collective decision, in Night, Elie decides to make the decision he does to go on and stick to his father after being separated from his family because all Jews were forced out of their homes to come to this concentration camp. Going to this place wasn’t an option because they were forced to or else they’d face themselves with death but Elie decides to say he eighteen because he wants to be with his father. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha and Govinda go out on the journey with the samanas together, they’re a group because they have stuck by each other.When Siddhartha makes his decision to let Govinda follow his path, on his own, he does this because he didn’t think that Govinda would be able to do so. He chooses to go on without him because he finds a gap in Buddha’s teaching and its what he wishes to do, although he does admire Gautama, he wanted this to happen.
Question 3:
In Siddhartha, Siddhartha has always thirsted for more knowledge about things because he’s full of questions (pg14), he thinks that one can’t learn anything, so he chooses not to follow Buddha, because he has an opinion on his teaching which Buddha finds unimportant. This decision of not going with Govinda to follow Buddha is harmful because he leaves Govinda, a friend which he’s been much through with but beneficial as well because he’s finally given himself because he no longer has a shadow. Elie’s decision in Night, to follow his dad, was what he needed because he didn’t want to be left alone after being separated from his mother and sisters. Being separated from them in this concentration camp wasn’t easy for him so he most definitely didn’t want to be left alone. His decision is beneficial because he gets what he wants, he’s not left alone and although this is a difficult stage in his life, he’s not going through it alone.
Question 4:
ReplyDeleteMadame Schachter and Buddha are similar because they each believe in something that they wish others would too. Gautama tries to teach others about suffering, where it begins and how to end it. Some people choose to join him and walk in holiness to end suffering but others don’t (pg28). And Madame Schachter, while on their voyage yells and swears she sees fire, but when everyone looks out the window to see, theirs is none. The others on the wagon strike her to be silent because she yells loudly and awakes everyone at night. She yells at night because she swears she “sees” what she claims to although no one else believes her.
Question 5:
After hearing Buddha’s teaching, Siddhartha really admires him, and mentions that what he says in his teaching is “perfectly proven” (pg31). But in the end he chooses not to follow him, “According to that selfsame law, this unity and consistency of all things is nevertheless interrupted in one place … through a small gap into this world of unity.” (pg31). Siddhartha feels that there is a gap in his teaching, which is his own opinion so he doesn’t follow. Meanwhile after Elie hears Madame Schachter scream, Elie doesn’t believe her and along with everyone else on the wagon, they say that she has a “poor soul” (pg23) which everyone is trying to convince themselves of, in order to console themselves. Siddhartha and Elie, each don’t fully believe what is persuaded to them so they react in a similar way, by choosing to try to ignore Schachter, in Elie’s case and not following Buddha in Siddhartha’s. Their reactions are beneficial because Siddhartha gets to go on and continue on his journey and Elie has consolation and the relief of not getting struck by others on the wagon.
Question 6:
They each react the way they do for a certain reason. Elie reacts this way to feel okay for the moment because being forced out his home, traveling in the conditions he does, in a wagon where it is hot, crowded and no water to drink is difficult. If he were to believe her, it would be more to add to this difficult time and would cause him to get hurt. Siddhartha reacts the way he does, because although he does admire Buddha’s teachings, he gives his opinion of his teaching because he says that he shows the world as a perfect chain, as never interrupted but the gap of overcoming the world, breaks the unified law of the world (pg31). His opinion causes him to react this way.
Question 1:
ReplyDeleteIn the book Siddhartha, self-decisions are made. Siddhartha makes a choice. He chooses to become a Samana. Even if it means giving up Hinduism to go about it. Besides making a decision with others, he made a choice pretty much only benefiting himself. In night, most of the decisions made are done in both groups or individuals. The Jews were forced to do labor work on the concentration camp. This work included groups and they decided to do the work while being aware of the consequences if it wasn’t completed. One person in the group affected everyone else.
Question 2:
In night, the main character was asked to lie about his age. At first, he was having trouble wit the idea, but at the end, him and his father agreed to lie about their ages so at the end, they would be together. It ended up well since they were fed and got enough sleep for the next day. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha and his best friend Govinda decide to go ahead and learn the ways of the Samanas. This was both a good and bad decision because althought Siddhartha has been wanting to go down this path, it made him leave his family.
Question 3:
In Night, Elie was asked one day by an SS officer what his occupation was. He replied that he was a farmer. This led to both trouble, but also life for Elie. If it wasn’t for this, he would have been sent to get burned to death. Now that he’s alive and the Germans believe he’s a farmer, they are testing his ability and making him work extra hard, proving if he can live up to what he said he is. In Siddhartha, during their journey, Siddhartha made a hard decision to separate from his best friend Govinda. It seemed as if they were never going to separate, but Siddhartha decided to find his own path to nirvana. It was beneficial since he wasn’t alone and had a good friend by his side to do what he desired most.
Question 4:
Both the Buddha in Siddhartha and Mrs. Schachter in Night are somehow different. On their way to the concentration camps, Mrs. Schachter out of nowhere screams out that there is a fire. This grabs everyone’s attention as they begin to look out for the fire. They see nothing. Again she repeatedly begins to assume there is a fire outside and again, everyone believes her at first till they see there is nothing. The Buddha makes a speech to those who want to follow his footsteps. Everyone wants to follow what he has done since he is known to be perfect. For that, he is looked up to.
Question 5:
Elie and Siddhartha reacted similarly to what Mrs. Schachter and Buddha have done. When Mrs. Schachter and Elie were in the same cart going to the concentration camp, Elie would wake up to the screams of Mrs. Schachter. She would be yelling about the fires outside that only she was seeing. Everyone believed that she was crazy and so did Elie. They began to beat on her, and all Elie did was stare at the officers pounding on her flesh. Siddhartha did something similar. When Buddha was giving his speech, all he did was listen to the words of wisdom coming out of his mouth. This was beneficial for him as his knowledge grew. It wasn’t as beneficial for Elie as he gained nothing from watching the life of a woman be torn apart.
Question 6:
Elie believed when Mrs. Schachter screamed out that there was a fire. It was alarming to him since he was sleeping and her screming jus appeared out of the blue. When it started to become constant, Elie began to lose interest because he soon realized that there was no fire, the woman had jus gone mad. Everyone began to be annoyed with her so beating were upon her and all Elie did was watch.
Siddhartha: Siddhartha reacts the way he does since he looked deep into the teachings of Buddha and found flaws in them. Siddhartha believes that it’s all based on knowledge, not teachings. Siddhartha is amazed in the teachings, but overall, sees the mistakes in his words.
Question#1
ReplyDeleteIn both books, Siddartha by Hermann Hesse, and Night by Elie Wiesel, both characters Siddartha and Eliezer had to make many unexpected decisions, decisions for themselves to decide individually, and decisions that were for a group. Siddartha showed his individual decision throughout the book. When Siddartha was choosing to continue and wander around to find his answers to his questions. It also showed an individual's decision when Govinda chosed to stay with Gautama and be his discipline, so he can learn his teachings and end suffering. In the book Night, Eliezer showed both an individual decision and a collective decision. The problems that Eliezer and the other people faced together, was a collective desicion. When Eliezer and his father was being asked by an SS officer, it was their own individual choice, whether to listen to the prisoner or not.
Question#2
In the book Siddartha, the collective decision that was made first, was when Siddartha chosed to be a samana, and learn to live like the ways of the samanas, this was a good decision because though Siddartha went through many hardships, leaving his home of luxury, he learned many things throughout his days with the samanas. The second collective decision was that Siddartha and Govinda wanted to be like others, other pilgrims and monks, to go and travel along the way to meet Buddha, Gautama, and learn and hear his teachings, and hear his pure speech. This decision was all good for them, because each one had a goal, it was to find unevitable peace, all trying to follow Gautama's path, and choosing to be his disciplines. In the book Night, the collective decision that was made was that, in order to survive, all of people had to obey the Germans, if not all of them could've died. '"There are eighty of you in this wagon," added the Germand officer. "If anyone is missing, you'll all be shot, like dogs...."'(Page 22). This was a good decision to make as a group because, if they hadn't, they would've all died, if one person escaped, one live will destroy many.
Question#3
In the book Siddartha, the indivdual decision that was made was that Siddartha chosed to continue to wander around the world, to find the answers to his questions, his thirst for knowledge was continuing. This decision was beneficial because Siddartha would continue to suffer from his thirst for knowledge if he stayed with Govinda and had was being Gautama's discipline. It was also beneficial because Siddartha was aiming for his goal, trying to find his answers, trying to fill up his emptiness. But this decision was also harmful, now that he is alone and Govinda is no longer besides him, Siddartha starts to feel lonely. "He has robbed me of my friend, my friend, who believed in me and who now believes in him-my friend, who was my shadow.."(Page 34). Govinda was like his shadow, he had lost his shadow that followed his through his samana years. Which this leads to again this decision being beneficial, because if Siddartha stayed with Govinda, he wouldn't have spoken to Gautama, and argued about his thoughts. If he didn't leave Govinda, he wouldn't have discover the real him, that was given to him throughout the argument with Gautama.
Question#4
Madame Schachter and Buddha was similar throughout both books. Buddha taught that desire was the cause of all suffering. Madame Schachter was one the cart with the other eighty people, when she suddenly starts to go insane, because she was separated from her husband and sons, she had gone out of her mind, and cries. "Fire! I can see a fire! I can see a fire!" (Page 22). She was suffering because she was in the desire for her husband and her sons. This is how Buddha, Gautama describes suffering, and Madame Schachter is suffering.
Question 1
ReplyDeleteIn the books Night and Siddhartha, it shows the struggle between making decision for the individual versus making decisions for the collective. In the book Night, Elie and his family was sent into concentration camp where they were treated badly. Women and men were separated differently. In the book, the decision for individual that Elie took was sticking with his dad and trying to be with him through the times the Germans were separating them. He also decided to ignore the fact that he had to follow under someone’s orders and just faced being in concentration camp. In the book, making a decision for the collective was when the German officer told them that if one don’t follow as they were told; the whole group would be punished on. In the book Siddhartha, the decision for individual would be when Siddhartha makes the decision to join the Samanas. A decision for the collective would be when Govinda looked at Siddhartha’s interests to create a decision.
Question 2
In the books Night and Siddhartha, it shows how each main character in the book goes about their decision based on the collective. In the book Night, the people being taken to the concentration camps had to follow the orders given by the German officers. If one was not to follow the orders, the whole group would be punished. Listening to the orders would be a positive thing because then no one would be punished. It was a good decision. In the book Siddhartha, Govinda looks at Siddhartha’s interests to decide on things. Doing this is a positive thing because this shows how he looks at other’s interests, not only on his own. It was a good decision.
Question 3
In the books Night and Siddhartha, it shows how each main character in the book goes about in their decision based on themselves. In the book Night, Elie made the decision to try to stick with his father and to accept the fact that he has to go to the concentration camp. Sticking with his father benefits him because they could live along benefiting off each other. They would be able to watch out for each other as they go through these hardships. Accepting the fact that he has to go to the concentration camp lets him get used to what he has to do and would make him a stronger person. These decisions would be beneficial. In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes the decision to join the Samanas. Joining the Samanas gives Siddhartha knowledge and the answers to his questions. This would be beneficial to Siddhartha.
Question 4
ReplyDeleteIn the books Night and Siddhartha, the characters, Madame Schachter and Buddah are similar by being able to get the attention of the people around them and cause a big scene. In the book Night, Madame Schachter was a woman in the same car as Elie. She was in her fifties and she had a ten-year-old son with her. Her husband and two older sons had been deported with the first transport, by mistake. During the ride, she keeps claiming she sees fire and screams like crazy while there’s nothing. This would annoy the people in the car and everyone tried to control her. In the book Siddhartha, Buddha spread around his words of teachings. From all of town, he would be heard and some would believe in his words. These two characters were similar by being able to impact the people around them.
Question 5
The way Elie and Siddhartha react to Schachter and Buddha were similar. In the book Night, Ms. Schachter screams in terror about the fire she sees. No one else saw it, so no one believed her and just thought she was crazy in some sort of way. In the beginning, everyone tries to calm her down. Later on, people start getting really thirsty and tired and just forget about her. They just completely ignore her and so does Elie. This doesn’t benefit him because later on, there really was a fire, and the fire was used to burn certain people. In the book Siddhartha, Buddha tells his teachings all around town. Siddhartha likes the teachings that he gives, but he has a journey. It was beneficial because he got some knowledge and he’s also able to keep going and get more knowledge.
Question 6
In the books Night and Siddhartha, Elie and Siddhartha reacted a certain way to Madame Schachter and Buddah for different reasons. In the book Night, Elie begins to ignore Schachter’s wild screams about seeing a fire. He does this because he doesn’t see a fire and there’s no purpose for him to believe her. Also, it was very tiring and many people thought she had problems. In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha wants to continue on his journey. Buddha spread around his wise words over town. Because of his wants for knowledge he needs to answer his questions. These were the reasons why these characters reacted this way to Schachter and Buddah.
Question#5
ReplyDeleteElizer and Siddartha's reaction to Madame Schachter and Buddha was very similar, and beneficial. Eliezer's reaction to Madame Schachter was that after a few days that Madame Schachter had been screaming about seeing fire, which wasn't there, Eliezer started to ignore the fact that it was all a lie, and that the fire wasn't an existence in Madame Schachter's world. Siddartha's reaction to Buddha was that, at first Siddartha was surprised by Gautama's Teachings, and surprised by how perfect he was. But as he finishes hearing from Gautama's teachings, Siddartha realizes there are still gaps between his teaching, an distant emptiness. Both characters, Eliezer and Siddartha were first very interested from Madame Schachter and Buddha's words, but later on, they both found out that there wasn't a true existence. There was no fire, no existence of fire. Siddartha didn't much believe in Gautama's teachings and argued with Gautama about his beliefs, saying how can one understand the suffering and perfection when they never went through it,saying gthis is not an existence. This is a beneficial reaction for Siddartha because later on, he found his true self. Both characters chosed not to believe in Buddha and Madame Schachter, and wants to choose their way of deciding.
Question#6
Siddartha reacted this way because, he wanted to satisfy his questions and thirst for knowledge. He wanted to continue and thrive for what he wants, and so he argues and tells Gautama that there are some problems and gaps in between his teachings. Eliezer reacted this was to Madame Schachter because, he didn’t want to continue in the world of Madame Schacter, believing that there is fire everytime she says there is. So he chooses to not believe in Madame Schachter, and look away.
Question #1
ReplyDeleteIn Siddhartha, Siddhartha is faced with making the decision of going with the samanas. Siddhartha made collectively based decisions whwen it came to the samanas b.c he wanted to speak to Buddha. He makes an individual decision when he decides to leave Govindfa to be a part of the samanas. In Night, the decisions which are made are mainly collective decisions, as a group. The Jewish families collectively decided to work. An individual decision by Eli was made to go with his dad.
Question # 2
Based on the collective decisions each character made are very important. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes the decision to become a samana, and leave his rank in the caste system, for something lower. Siddhartha makes the decision with the help of his friend Govinda. This was a good thing that they did this together, because then they won't be alone on the journey. In Night, Eli decided to sleep while standing up. He understood that it wasn't going to be the most comfortable way of sleeping, but he knew that by doing this he wouldn't get in trouble, and neither would the other Jews. This was a good decision, because him nor the other Jews did not get in trouble.
Question # 3
The decisions that both characters made were beneficial to themselves. Although Elie did not want to eat the food served at camp, he thought he should eat it, because of his huge hunger pains. By eating the food it was beneficial to Elie, because after a certain amount of days with no food, he would get weak and be unable to perform the tasks that they would like him to do, which obviously can harm him. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha thought that Govinda and him should separate to benefit their knowledge. This benefitted Siddhartha because he was able to speak with Buddha.
Question # 4
Ms. Schachter and Buddha are not that similar, however they do share one thing. They both have an impact on people. When Ms. Schachter was screaming about the fire that she saw, and the smoke, no one believed her, until they got to the concentration camps. Buddha spreads his teachings, and speaks of Nirvana to educate the followers. Buddha has an impact on anyone who is following him, because he is a great symbol.
Question # 5
ReplyDeleteIn Siddhartha, Siddhartha reacts to Buddha with more confidence, and feels that he is closer to Nirvana. This was beneficial because maybe he needed that confidence with his journey. In Night, Elie didn't really have a specific reaction to Ms. Schachter, he was very calm. He was tired of her lying. This was beneficial because if he would have gone crazy, the other people might have thought he was crazy too.
Question # 6
In Night, Elie used to believe Ms. Schachter at first when she used to scream about the fire. Since she always screamed, I think he got tired of her and just acted like he didn't hear her, and was calm. Siddhartha reacted the way he did because he found flaws in the teachings of Buddha. I feel that Siddhartha was disappointed in what he heard, but was still overall amazed with Buddha.
1. In the book Night, Elie struggles to make a decision whether he should stay with his father and family rather than save himself and leave while he has the chance. His decision is a collective one because Elie took into consideration his entire family and the impact it would have over their lives. In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha and Govinda both left the samanas, making a decision that benefited them. Govinda then left Siddhartha to join Buddha, which was also an individual decision. Siddhartha did not join Buddha and settled on trying to find his own path to deliverance, which only benefited him.
ReplyDelete2. When the opportunity arose to leave, Elie was faced with a decision; save himself any leave, or stay with his family. Eventually Elie stayed with his family. This wasn't a good decision because the conditions and treatment of Jews in the concentration camps were horrible and his life was constantly threatened. Siddhartha and Govinda decided to leave the samanas and listen to the teachings of Buddha. This benefited them because Govinda is now following someone who actually reached Nirvana and Siddhartha realized he needs to follow his own path; not even someone who reached Nirvana can help him achieve the goal for himself.
3. Siddhartha made an individual decision by not joining Buddha and trying to find his own path to deliverance. This decision was beneficial to him because he could eventually reach Nirvana and not have to suffer anymore. When approached by an SS officer, Elie had to figure out what to tell him. Late, Elie told him that he was 18 and a farmer. This helped him because if he said he were any younger, he could have been sent to the furnace and people of special craft were sent off to different camps where they were most likely doing more tedious labor than in simple laborer's camps.
4. Madame Schachter and Buddha both claim things that aren't exactly proven to be true. In the book Night, Elie was being transported in a car along with 80 other people when Mrs. Schachter woke everyone up with her screaming about a fire. When people went to check outside the window, they didn't see any fire. Everyone thought that she was crazy and didn't believe what she claimed to see. Later on, when the prisoners were taken to a concentration camp, they realized that people were being burned alive in large furnaces, similar to those that Mrs. Schachter was crying about in the car. This is similar to Buddha claiming to have reached Nirvana in the book Siddhartha. People traveled far to hear him teach and possibly even join his fellowship. There is not much proof that Guatama really did reach Nirvana and many people did not believe him, like the samanas. This is why Madame Shachter and Buddha are similar.
5. Elie's reaction to Mrs. Schachter wasn't beneficial because even though he tried to calm her down while she was screaming, it did no good. At first, Elie went to go see what she was shouting about but there was no fire outside the car that he could see. After a while he started to get freaked out and listening to her made him feel like screaming. Siddhartha had a similar reaction to all the talk about Buddha. While he was with the samanas, Siddhartha heard a rumor that someone named Gautama, the Buddha, overcame the sorrow of the world in himself and was teaching his followers. Intrigued, Siddhartha and Govinda went to check out what the fuss was all about. This reaction was beneficial because it helped Siddhartha realize he had to figure out how to reach deliverance on his own. It also helped Govinda finally stop being in Siddhartha's shadow and follow his own path.
6. Siddhartha reacts the way he does to the rumors about Buddha because he was already questioning the samana's way of life. He did not want to become a 60 or 70 year old samana and still not reach Nirvana, like his teachers. He wanted to be taught by someone who already experienced what he was striving for, so when the opportunity arose, Siddhartha left. Elie, because he was woken up by Mrs. Schachter's screaming, was disoriented and instinctively checked to see what was going on outside.
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ReplyDeleteMany decisions are made by how they act like
in Siddartha, Siddartha made his own individual decision by leaving his friends to be a higher level; to be a Samana. Another individual decision would be Elie in the book Night, Elie's decision was to go with father instead of his mother. A collective decision wouldbe when the prisoners go together as a group and the group makes the decision like team work.
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The collective decisions were good decisions.In Siddartha, Siddartha and Govinda made a decision such as listening to the teachings of the Buhddha. Even though it separated them it was a good thing because instead of following each each other they can do what they want best. In Night, Elie and his father needed to stay together as close as possible so lying about their age seemed wrong but at least it helped them stay together.
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The individual decisions were beneficial and it was a good thing. In Siddartha, Siddartha listened to Buddha and went separated ways with Govinda, it was a good thing because now that they're separated they can now do what they want. In Night, Elie decides to eat and it was a good thing because if he didn't he would become weaker than before and wouldnt have the strength to do anything.
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Madame Schachter and Gautama Buddha is similar to each other. THey both tell other people what to do and people listen to them. What the both of them says helped the people. Like Buddha his teachings helped people and for Madame Schachter he was yelling and screaming that there's a fire and huge flames that made the people realize that there was a fire.
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Siddartha and Elie both reacted to Schacter and BUddha. In SIddartha, Siddartha reacts to Buddha with confidence and it was beneficial because he felt closer to Nirvana. In Night, Elie reacted to Schacter by watching her like the others when she was tied up and he didnt do anything that would make her go more "crazy".
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Siddartha and Elie both react to Schacter and BUddha the way they did because that was how they felt it should be. Siddartha reacted to Buddha the way he did because he thought he was getting closer to NIrvana and was achieving it. Elie react that way because he didnt want to get beat up like she did. So Elie stayed shut and just watched.
Question 1
ReplyDeleteIn each book, the decisions or the individual were much easier to make than for the collective. In Night, Elie wanted to commit suicide to escape his fate. It would be easier for him because he didn’t have to consider what his father would feel when he watches his son die. Some men also had to beat a woman to stop her from screaming when they were in the cart going to Auschwitz, which was hard for them to do but everyone was so tired and scared that they had no choice. In Siddhartha, he left his home to discover himself even though his father didn’t want him to. Later in the book, he left his best friend Govinda so they could go their own ways, even though Siddhartha knew they would miss each other. The individual decisions were easier because they didn’t have to consider the affect on everyone else, but the collective was harder because they would need to compromise.
Question 2
The groups in both books made Elie and Siddhartha act differently about their situations. When Elie’s relative asked him how his family was doing in Night, so he lied to make him feel better. If he told his relative the truth, it would make everyone feel worse adding insult to injury. In Siddhartha, he needed to leave Govinda because he knew they had to be individuals. Siddhartha and Govinda needed to grow on their own instead of always relying on each other. The decisions they made were good because Elie lightened the mood while Siddhartha got to learn on his own. Even though the collective decision was hard, it was better for everyone.
Question 3
Collective decisions may have been a better choice for everyone, but individual choices were made too. In Night, Elie ignored his father so he can study Kabala. It was beneficial because Elie got to explore his faith and look deeper into his religion. In Siddhartha, he left home for himself so he could find another belief system to follow without doubt. It was beneficial for him because it led to him meeting Buddha and venturing out on his own. It is good to think about others, but sometimes it’s better to think about yourself too.
Question 4
Madame Schachter and the Buddha himself are both great examples of his teachings. In Night, Madame Schachter desired her family and freedom which caused her to suffer and scream about a fire. The Buddha on the other hand doesn’t desire which means he doesn’t suffer He reached Nirvana and perfection, and is eternally content. Even though Madame Schachter doesn’t practice Buddhism, she and the Buddha are the subject of his teachings.
Question 5
Elie’s reaction to Madame Schachter and Siddhartha’s reaction to the Buddha had several similarities. When the men were beating Madame S. in Night, Elie did nothing but stood there and watched. In Siddhartha, he confronted Gautama about his teachings and pointed something wrong with it, offending the Buddha. Both reactions were disrespectful but beneficial; Madame Schachter was quiet and Siddhartha learned from the Buddha. Even though they weren’t the best reactions, they each helped the main characters of both books.
Question 6
Although the reactions of each character were alike, the reasons they did it were separate. Elie in Night was tired and desperate for peace. He was scared and didn’t know what was going to happen next, and a woman screaming at the top of her lungs about a non-existing fire did not help. Meanwhile, Siddhartha ran into the Buddha and wanted to explain to him why he wouldn’t join. His explanation just happened to offend him. Behind every action is a reason, though different for everyone, that causes them to do what they do.
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ReplyDeleteIn the book Night, the way to survive was to work together rather as an individual. So far, Elie worked with his people to quiet down Madame Schachter because she kept crying out that she sees fire and stuff. He also had to make an individual decision to wether help out the men shut her up or to just watch them. In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha made the individual decision to leave Govinda at the teachings of the Buddha. And his collective decision was to learn with the samanas. They both learned how to fast and be patient. They also decided to go to the Buddha together.
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Elie made the decision to stay with his father instead of going with the kids his age and with his mother. this resulted in that whatever his father goes through, he goes through as well. and this resulted in working hard for a little bit of food. Siddhartha made the decision to leave the Buddha's teachings and leaving Govinda behind. this resulted as i guess a good decisioon because it meant less worries about others and only the focus of himself.
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Elie made the decision to help his father during the work. This results as good in the beggining then bad later on in the story. Its good in the beggining because he is helping his father stay alive in the camp. And it turns bad because he later finds out that its the work of an indepentent person to survive at the camp. IN the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes a collective decisiopn to bring Govinda along to the Buddha. This resulted as a bad decision because it resulted as a loss of a friend because Govinda stayed with the Buddha and his teachings.
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Madame Schachter is a woman who lost his husband during the pack up to leave their ghetto. and Buddha is a very wise man whos teachings are that wanting something resulted as suffering. They are both similar becuase they both give peices of information to the main characters. It was information to Elie because she kept yelling she sees fire, which later results as she was telling the truth. And it was also information to Siddhartha because the Buddha gave some adive of what thirst for knowledge will get him.
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Elie reacted as if Madame was a crazy lady and this wasnt benificial because they didnt believe her until they actually saw it for themselves. And tSiddhartha took the Buddhas advice as very help ful in his journey/ This was beneficial because it wass like a warning to him if he ever feels like he is in the situation given by the Buddha.
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For Elie, he reacts this way because his people couldnt see what Madame Schachter was seeing. So they presumed that she was crazy. That changed after they saw the fire themselfs at the end of the train ride.
Siddhartha reacted to what the Buddha was telling him as a helpful advice for the future and he took it as advice because it was a wise man telling him this instead of any ordanary person.
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ReplyDeleteIn the book Night by Elie Wiesel the decision an individual makes is usually for their own good. An individual decision Elie makes is when he took the advice from the prisoner. The prisoner told him to lie about his age and say he was eighteen. Elie did as he was told and ended up in a safe camp/building. A group [but more individual] decision they made was when the people struck Madame Schachter on the head. They did this because she was constantly screaming fire when there was no fire. The people on the truck were scared of what was ahead of them and Madame Schachter was not helping the cause but making the people more worried. In the book Siddhartha by Herman Hesse, Siddhartha makes many decisions, some group and some for himself [individual]. When Siddhartha leaves his home to fulfill his goal to become empty of desires, this was an individual decision he makes. A group decision Siddhartha makes was when he decides to leave Govinda with Buddha. Siddhartha does this because Govinda has been following and doing the same things as him since childhood. Siddhartha wants Govinda to be more independent so he leaves him. A group decision made in this book is usually good for the overall group. Siddhartha really wanted to stay but he left for his friend.
Question 2
In Night, Elie makes the decision of sticking with his father because that is the only family member left. His mother and sister are at a different campsite. Elie also chooses to lie about his age later on when an officer questions him. He does this to keep himself safe from the crematory. Both of these were wise decision because they were made for the better Staying with his father was good because that was his last family member and if he didn’t want to lose his father too. Lying about his age was a good decision because he was going to be safe from being burned or doing torturous things. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes the decision of leaving Govinda. This was a good decision because Govinda will stop following Siddhartha and start to be an individual. Siddhartha wants to stay with Buddha but doesn’t because he felt that he has learned enough and it’s time to go somewhere else.
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ReplyDeleteBoth books, Siddhartha and Night, show both collective and individual decisions. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha mostly struggles with group decisions. His individual thoughts affect the people around him. He chose to listen to Gautama’s teachings about suffering, eliminating suffering, the eightfold path, and the four noble truths. Finally, on page 29, he knows himself that his ego and ideas would destroy the Buddha’s teachings and convert it to his own teachings if he joined as one of the disciples. For these reasons, he doesn’t follow his long time friend into being a follower. In Night, Elie is struggling to make individual decisions. He first intended to stay with his family and listen to them. On page 6, Elie wanted to move and leave Sighet, but his father’s choice was to stay and he stayed with his father. Also, on page 18, Elie and his older sister refused to separate from the family. After the separation from his mother and sister at Birkenau, he and his father meet a stranger and he tells them to change their age. Elie did what the man told him to do, and passed as a healthy worker. He really didn’t have a choice because if he went against those options, he would’ve been killed, forcing him to stick with group decisions. These two characters both struggle with different decision making.
Question 2:
Based on collective decisions, both Elie and Siddhartha were benefited. In Siddhartha, he and Govinda decide to join and leave the samanas. They learned, lived, and worked with each other and practically lived each other’s lives. They learned many things from the samanas, such as breathing differently and meditating. These teachings made both of them wiser, and it even pushed Siddhartha more into his ego because he knew that he was repeating the same cycle. Siddhartha and Govinda also both decided to hear the Sublime One’s teachings, despite the different opinions they each had on him. In Night, Elie and his community decide to listen to the German officers, because they have no other option. At Birkenau, after being separated by gender, the young men wanted to revolt and fight against the guards. “ ‘We’ve got to go something. We can’t…We’ve got to revolt.’…But the older ones begged their children not to do anything foolish…wind of revolt died down. We continued our march toward the square.” (page 29, Night) The group decided to not lose faith, remember the teachings of the sages and stopped thinking about revolting. These are the collective decisions the main characters make.
Question 3:
Siddhartha made a benefiting decision while Elie did the opposite. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha chooses to follow his own path and to leave his long time faithful friend. “ ‘And now my friend will remain with your followers, he has taken refuge with you. But I am resuming my pilgrimage.’” (page 26, Siddhartha) He knows that his individual choice of following his own path will lead to his goal. He chooses to keep wandering to achieve his “goal alone or die.” (page 29, Siddhartha) This choice will benefit him, leading him closer or farther away from his goal, because he is willing to keep wandering ‘til he find the answer. In Night, Elie’s individual decisions made him notice that he is changing. Just one night at the camp, and he changed his whole life. “The night was gone. The…A dark flame had entered into my soul and devoured it…one night—one single night?” (page 34, Night). He watched his father get slapped, and he didn’t even move a muscle. Siddhartha’s individual decisions benefit him and Elie’s decision were harmful and made him change.
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ReplyDeleteMadame Schachter and Buddha are similar in a few ways. One thing for sure about them is that they completely stand out in the crowd. In Siddhartha, “ Attentively Govinda peered at the monk…And yet Govinda soon realized: That is he.” (page 22, Siddhartha) Though Gautama looked like the other monks, Govinda and Siddhartha knew that he was the one, the saint, the Sublime One. In the cattle wagon, Madame Schachter was the only Jew screaming and moaning in pain, while the others were calm and okay with the situation. Another similarity is that the two can see and experience things no one else in the group can. The Buddha is the only one that reached Nirvana and Madame Schachter is the only one who can see fire and smoke. These are the similarities that these both characters share.
Question 5:
When Siddhartha first laid eyes on the Buddha, he saw a saint. His reaction was instant love for this human being and he loved Gautama more than anything he loved. This reaction was beneficial because he gave the Buddha respect when he was speaking his thoughts and it gave Siddhartha who he was. “But he had given me Siddhartha, has given me my self.” (page 30, Siddhartha) Elie’s reaction to Madame Schachter was that he was a bit surprised, afraid and probably a little tired from her screaming. “But it was in van. Our terror was about to burst…stand it no longer.” (page 23, Night) This wasn’t very beneficial because he didn’t listen to her when she screamed fire. But he was just going along with the group, which pushed him into following collective decisions instead of individual decisions.
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Siddhartha reacted this way because Gautama was holy. Gautama was full of truth, calmness, and peace. “This was holy. Never had Siddhartha…he had never loved a human being so deeply as this one.” (page 23, Siddhartha) At first, Siddhartha was curious about the Buddha because he too wanted to reach nirvana, and end his cycle. He wanted to hear the teachings of the great one. This man was perfect, and Siddhartha knew that he couldn’t deny it. “ ‘Yet I will often think…and to this hour when my eyes beheld a saint.’” (page 29, Siddhartha)
Elie’s reaction would be a normal reaction with all the Jews in that cattle wagon. Eighty people were forced into a cattle wagon and a strong, quiet woman screaming fire in the corner. The word “terrified” fits perfectly into this situation because he has no idea where he is heading, and a woman yelling that she sees smoke and fire is making things worse. Though she kept moaning the same thing over, Elie still believed her every time she screamed. “Waking up with a start, we rushed to the window. Yet again we had believed her, even if for a moment.” (page 25, Night)
Question 3
ReplyDeleteIn Night, Elie makes the decision of not eating during the first two days, fasting. He does this because his father spoils him so he will not eat low quality food. This was a bad decision he made because he was tormented by the hunger but didn’t eat. This was also good because later on, this hunger leads him to eat anything he is allowed to. Another individual decision Elie makes is when he tells Stein his mother received news from Stein’s family. Elie tells him this because he wants to make Stein happy. After Stein heard what Elie said, he wept with joy. This was a beneficial decision because this lie gave Elie and Elie’s father an opportunity to talk to Stein. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes an individual decision when he talks with Buddha. After the talk, Siddhartha learns what he truly wants in life but looses his friend, Govinda. This was beneficial because Siddhartha knows what to do with his life now.
Question 4
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar in many ways. Although Madame Schachter is seen as a crazy women, people still believe the things she say. For example, when she yells out fire, people look behind them to see if there really is a fire but, there was no. The last time she yells fire, there actually is a fire and she wasn’t lying. Buddha tells people ways according to himself to reach nirvana. People also listen to him and follow him because they feel like he is right. Both of them have people who listen to them. Although people think Madame Schachter has gone mad, they still listen to what she says. Alternately, people think Buddha is perfect and also listen to him.
Question 5
Elie’s reaction to Madame Schachter was just like other people’s. He thought she was insane. He did not understand why she yelled fire but still believed her just like the other people. He was pretty annoyed with her because she wouldn’t stop yelling fire and did not stop the people when they struck her on the head. His reaction wasn’t really beneficial because his reaction was just like everyone else’s. Siddhartha’s reaction to the Buddha was that he thought Buddha was perfect, his walking, his balance, everything. This was the reason that lead Siddhartha in to loving Buddha. Siddhartha’s reaction was somewhat beneficial because I don’t think anyone ever noticed how perfect Buddha was except for Siddhartha. This was a unique quality that Siddhartha notices from Buddha so it is beneficial.
Question 6
Elie acts this way because he too is worried about what is ahead of him just like everyone else. He does not know if he will die or live the moment he gets there. He does not know what its like there and is scared. Siddhartha acts this way because Siddhartha himself wants to be perfect and empty of desires. He looks up to Buddha like the other people and hope to reach nirvana. Siddhartha later disagrees with Buddha because he believes he was right. Siddhartha wants a perfect road to nirvana and found flaws in Buddha’s teaching so he disagrees with it.
1. Both Eliezer and Siddhartha made individual and collective decisions during their journey. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha made an individual decision to go on his own and leave behind his friendship with Govinda. It was also a collective decision because he knew that it would help Govinda grow up and learn to do things on his own. In chapter two, a woman named Madame Schachter keeps screaming about a fire. The people on the train are terrified because it made them wonder what awaits them in the next destination. They collectively decided to silence her by beating her and tying her up. Eliezer also collectively decided to lie to Stein that his family is alive even though he has no idea. It is a collective decision because it made Stein happy and want to continue living. Eliezer made an individual decision to lie about his age and to stay with his father. These choices will bring different paths in their lives.
ReplyDelete2. Siddhartha made a good collective decision. Siddhartha wanted to experience nirvana on his own while Govinda wanted to learn from the Buddha. It'll help Siddhartha and Govinda to grow and learn on their own. In Night, silencing Madame Schachter by beating her wasn't a very great idea because they could've killed her but it helped calm everyone else down. The collective decisions in Night and Siddhartha both were good choices.
3. Siddhartha made the decision to go on his own based on his individual need. It is beneficial because it would give him a chance to experience nirvana. Without Govinda, he wouldn't have anyone to worry about so he can concentrate better. Eliezer's decision to lie about his age and what he did was beneficial. If he didn't listen to the prisoner about lying, he might have been killed. Their individual decisions were beneficial to them.
4. Madame Schachter and the Buddha are similar to each other. Whenever they speak, people believe them. Their words have meanings to them. Everytime Madame Schachter screams about a fire everyone looks at where she points. Everyone thought she was crazy until they actually saw the fire and the many lives being burned to ashes. Their words affect the people around them.
5. Eliezer and Siddhartha's reactions to Madame Schachter and Buddha's words are similar. Madame Schachter and Buddha's words fill Eliezer and Siddhartha with wonder. It makes them think about what lies in their future. Madame Schachter's words makes Eliezer wonder if bad things will happen to him in the next destination. Buddha's words make Siddhartha think about how he can reach nirvana. Their reactions were beneficial because it gave them an idea of what to do.
ReplyDelete6. Madame Schachter made Eliezer terrified. He reacted that way because it made him wonder about what the Germans would do to him next. He thought she was crazy but then realized that she was telling the truth; there was a fire. Siddhartha reacted the way he did because they thought that Buddha was all lies. He thought that no one could reach nirvana until he met and talked to Buddha. His words so so mesmerizing and believable. Eliezer and Siddhartha's reactions were they because of the change in Buddha and Madame Schachter.
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ReplyDeleteIn the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha makes decisions that benefit his life and help him become closer to his goal of becoming a blissful man. Siddhartha makes the choice to leave his dear friend Govinda who has decided to join Buddha's refuge and decides for him to rejoin the samanas that have taught him everything he knows. This individual decision puts a strain on Govinda and Siddhartha's friendship because they will no longer be close as they were when they both were samanas under the same elder back in the forest where they stayed. Although Govinda wanted to follow his friend it was time to part ways and make his own way of living that was not based on Siddhartha’s. In the book Night, Elie's individual decision is to stay in the concentration camp with his father rather than going with his mother and the other boys that were his age. Regardless of the choice Elie made it still takes a toll on his family because they are separated from one another.
Question 2
The decisions Siddhartha would make for the collective was for the best. This decision was to leave his friend Elie who has joined Buddha's refuge and separating himself from his dear friend who has always been beside him and following his footsteps. This decision was for the better for each character because they will now be creating their own paths the way they want to and accomplish their life goals. In the book Night, Elies collective decision is to join his father instead of going with his mother were all the other boys his age were. This decision benefits the older men Elie now is placed with, but the choice Elie made was not a good one for him. He is able to help the older men with the physical labor they must due and by helping there is more of a chance that someone won’t get killed, but by doing so Elie will become weak from working hard all day with little food to eat.
Question 3
In the book Siddhartha, one of Siddhartha's individual decisions was to become a samana with his friend Govinda. By doing so it would help them gain knowledge they did not know. This decision was beneficial for Siddhartha and his friend Govinda because they were able to get a new learning experience and in doing so would eventually reach Nirvana and become blissful men. Elie’s individual decision in the book Night was very harmful. This was because he told an SS officer he was a farmer and lied about his age. This was harmful because farmers are supposed to be very hard workers and Elie isn’t hard working. Now because of this lie he has to do hard labor for little food so he won’t get killed.
Question 4
ReplyDeleteIn the book Siddhartha, rumors began to spread about Gautama the Buddha. These rumors were that Gautama had reached Nirvana, and that his teachings could heal the sick. Some people were motivated because of Buddha and the fact that he brought hope. But others chose not to believe in him and think of him as just an act. In the book Night, Madame Schachter is considered a crazy woman due to the fact that she would yell that there was a fire burning on the ride to the concentration camps when there was no fire to be seen. Because of this people became annoyed with the older woman and would try to hurt her just so she could stop screaming, but when they arrived at the concentration camp there was a fire there. These two characters are similar because people take them for granted when the statements they make are indeed correct.
Question 5
I think Siddhartha’s reaction to Buddha was beneficial for him. I believe this because Siddhartha would take in what the Buddha would teach to the people and listen to his words of wisdom. And when he notice a flaw in the Buddha teachings he let it be known and instead of being yelled at was given the knowledge needed to reach Nirvana for himself. I feel Elies reaction to Madame Schachter was beneficial for him as well but not for Madame Schachter. I think this because Elie would go along with the other men and women that called Schachter crazy. Even though he knows her and believed in her he still didn’t stick up for her because he didn’t want to risk getting hurt by the other men while they beat Madame Schachter.
Question 6
I think Siddhartha reacted the way he did when listening to the Buddha’s teaching because that is just the person he is, he questions everything and by doing this it helps him gain the knowledge he needs to move forward with his life and to help him eventually reach Nirvana. I think Elie reacting the way he did in following the other men and women by calling Madame Schachter names was wrong. I believe he did this to protect himself so he wouldn’t get hurt and get yelled at by the other men and women. This reaction was very wrong on his part, especially if he knew Schachter and didn’t stick up for her.
Question 1
ReplyDeleteIn the two books, Night and Siddhartha, the main characters had struggled with making decisions along their way as a group and individual. In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha had made the decision of going to listen to the teaching of Buddha together with his friend as a group. They leave the semanas and they had struggle with this decision. Siddhartha and his friend Govinda had been with the semanas for a long time. They leave their family and everything to go with the semanas and they now they are leaving. Another decision Siddhartha made individually is to leave Govinda by himself to let him go on his own path. Siddhartha had struggled with that decision because Govinda had always been his shadow; his childhood friend. Elie in the book Night, he had made an individual decision of telling Stein, his mother’s niece’s husband, that Reizel, Stein’s wife is okay. Stein’s wife Reizel and his children were sent to the concentration camps, too; and Stein wants to know if they are still alive and okay. Elie doesn’t want to make Stein feel bad, and he lied. A collective decision in Night is that everyone wants Mrs. Schachter to calm down about seeing the fire. They also forced her to sit down, bound her and gagged her.
Question 2
A collective decision that Siddhartha had made is to leave the semanas to listen to the teaching of Buddha. This decision was made because Siddhartha had learned all the semanas have already and he want to move on. However, Siddhartha also made this decision because his friend Govinda wants to learn Buddha’s teachings. This was a good decision that Siddhartha made because he heard Buddha’s teachings and see Buddha as perfection from the teaching. It’s also a good decision also because Govinda now is on his own path, not following Siddhartha’s way no more. In the book Night, Elie had made a collective decision for not sleeping on the barrack. He was asleep standing and he decides not to after some man yell at him for he’s going to get all of them into troubles if he’s asleep. This was a good decision because the Germans may kill them if the Jews were not doing what’s being told.
Question 3
ReplyDeleteAn individual decision that Siddhartha made is to keep going on his own way and let Govinda go by himself. Govinda had always following Siddhartha as he was Siddhartha’s shadow. Now, Govinda can finally go on his own path by himself as Siddhartha’s leaving him to go with Buddha. This is a beneficial decision that was made because now Govinda can learn to be by himself and make his own decisions. It may be a harmful decision for Siddhartha though because Govinda had always by his side and now Govinda’s leaving. Elie in the book Night had made a decision that’s both beneficial and harmful individually, too. Elie lied to Stein about Reizel, Stein’s wife, that she’s fine. Elie lied because he doesn’t want Stein to feel bad. He made this decision from a good starting point, but it is harmful because it’s a lie and Stein found out the truth after.
Question 4
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar because they both seen what was coming and they both didn’t really cared about what the other people says about it. In the book Siddhartha, many people had say bad things and spread rumors about Buddha. However, his teachings were found out as true. Buddha really looked as he did reach nirvana and he wants people to follow what he did so they can reach nirvana, too. He knew that people can really reach it and he want people to know that. Mrs. Schachter in the book Night was considered as crazy because she yelled that there’s a fire in the middle of the nights when no one can see anything. But when the people reach the concentration camps, they did saw the big fire. The terrible fire that Mrs. Schachter saw was true. It really exists. Mrs. Schachter saw it before everyone else somehow and people didn’t believe her and called her insane when she screams the fire.
Question 5
Siddhartha and Elie both react to the actions of Buddha and Mrs. Schachter in a similar way. Elie did listen to what Mrs. Schachter and he believed her a bit in the beginning. However, Elie didn’t choose to defend her and believe her after all. This was how he reacts to Mrs. Schachter and it was beneficial because everyone would be against him and he may be hit as the others were hitting Mrs. Schachter to make her quite. Siddhartha on the other side react in a similar way to Buddha that Elie react to Mrs. Schachter. Siddhartha went to listen to the teachings of Buddha and he believed it. But he found out that there are some failing points and he chooses to reach nirvana by himself, in his own ways. This showed the similarity between Elie and Siddhartha.
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ReplyDeleteSiddhartha react this way because he wants the right and true teachings. That was why he joined the semanas before, too. Siddhartha found failing points in Buddha’s teaching, and that’s why he didn’t choose the follow Buddha’s teachings. On the other side for Elie, he acted that way because no one would want to go to against the big group. If Elie did help out Mrs. Schachter, people may beat him up too as they were trying to make Mrs. Schachter. Also Elie didn’t knew is Mrs. Schachter is mad or she really saw a fire, and that’s why he is reacting in the way he is.
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ReplyDeleteIn Siddhartha we see this struggle. We see this when Govinda strays away from Siddhartha and goes with the Buddha. Govinda has always been there for Siddhartha, but he thought Siddhartha was also going to join unknowing that he wouldn’t. In Night Eliezer had this struggle. We see this when he was told to stand, but some people sat down. He could of sat down, but he stood. This is where we see these struggles in Night, and Siddhartha.
Question 2
Siddhartha made the decision to leave his friend with the Buddha, and follow his own path. I think this was a good decision, because he believed if he followed the Buddha he would of kept his ego. Eliezer also didn’t follow what everybody else was doing he stood up. I believe he too, also made a good decision, because if a guard would have walked in, and he didn’t know he would have been in trouble.
Question 3
Siddhartha made the decision to not join the Buddha, and find another way to reach nirvana. I think this decision was beneficial, because if he would of followed the Buddha he would of kept his ego. Eliezer made the decision to stand, because he knew if he didn’t he would be punished. I thin k this decision was also beneficial.
Question 4
Madame Schachter, and the Buddha are similar in the way they can predict things. Madame Schachter foresaw the camp they were going to had a crematory. I think that the Buddha telling Siddhartha about him being clever is foreshadowing Siddhartha is not going to reach his goal, because of him being clever.
Question 5
Eliezer reacts to Madame Schachter as if she is crazy. I feel his actions were beneficial, because if I were in his situation I would have thought the same thing. Siddhartha also reacted to the Buddha as if he were wrong, in the way he teaches. I think this was also beneficial, because Siddhartha knew that perfection couldn’t be thought.
Question 6
Siddhartha reacts this way, because he saw the Buddha when he was teaching, and he felt the Buddha was teaching with an ego, which was something he wants to get rid of so he can reach Nirvana. Eliezer saw Madame Schachter screaming about fire in the middle of the night when there was none, so he reacted to her as if she was becoming crazy. This is why Siddhartha, and Eliezer reacted the way they did.
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Question 1:
Though faced with different situations Siddhartha and Elie share similar concepts. They both believe in god and feel connected by praying, though at times they do not always feel reassured by it and may have doubts. Siddhartha and Elie are both faced with situations that will affect the outcome of their lives and are not quite sure how they feel about it or how to deal with it. Another way Siddhartha and Elie are similar is that they both follow their father's lead, their fathers being similar in that they are both powerful and have good intentions.
Question 2:
Siddhartha is described as someone who brings joy to everyone but himself; the opposite applies to Elie. Unlike Siddhartha Elie is able to appreciate what he has and does not have as big of an impact on society as Siddhartha does. The situations that Siddhartha and Elie face differ because Siddhartha is able to choose while Elie is not. Elie and Siddhartha also come from different backgrounds, Elie is a Hasidic Jew and Siddhartha is Buddhist. Due to their religion they pray differently, Elie worships god by going to synagogue while Siddhartha meditates. While both Siddhartha and Elie's fathers are demanding they share different relationships. Siddhartha respects and obeys his father while Elie obeys but does not respect.
Question 3:
In the books Siddhartha and Night belief systems seem to divide people rather than unite. When Siddhartha makes the decision of leaving his family in order to join the ascetics to become a samana he leaves his father and mother, which is not the action of a true Brahman. In Night when Elie and his family are under the control of Hitler during the holocaust families are split apart due to their belief system, which is dividing people and not uniting.
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ReplyDeleteIn the book Siddhartha, Govinda makes an individual decision when he decides to choose his own path and not follow Siddhartha. Siddhartha thought that day would never come, where Govinda would choose and follow his own path. In the book Night, the decisions made were individual. The decisions were individual because the people themselves chose to lie about their professions and their age as they were asked by Dr. Mengele. They chose to do this for their own good so that all the men could possibly stay together and be pointed in the same direction.
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The collective decisions in the book Siddhartha were that him and Govinda chose to follow the samanas together. They chose to learn the teachings and practice those of the samanas together as a group. The collective decisions of the book Night were how Elie and his father chose together to lie about their age and professions. Without lying, Elie and his father could have been separated from eachother at the concentration camps. They chose that action as a group and it ultimately worked out.
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In the book Siddhartha, an individual decision made was by Siddhartha. He made the individual decision to leave Govinda. The decision he made was benificial to himself because Siddhartha can finally follow his path alone, to reach Nirvana. In the book Night, the individual decision made was by Elie. At first, Elie wished to run to the electrical wired fence. Then, Elie realized he did not want to do that to himself. He chose this decision on his own and no one had any say put into that decision. This decision was benficial because Elie would live and not die from doing that action he previously thought about.
Question 4:
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar. Although they are two different people coming from different cultures and beliefs, they are very much so alike. In the book Siddhartha, Buddha teaches people teachings. The buddha said he always speaks the truth and that is what the town believes in, nothing else. In the book Night, Madame Schachter was on the train and constantly seen a fire. She would scream FIRE! FIRE! All the people on the train would look and see nothing making them think she was crazy. Eventually the people saw fire and she was speaking the truth. Madame Schachter and Buddha are two similar people because they both speak the truth.
Question 5:
Elie reacts to Madame Schachter as if she was crazy. All of the people on the cattle wagon thought she was crazy because she was fire while others did not. No one believed her. Siddhartha reacts to the Buddha's teachings. He believed that the Buddha's teachings were clear. He also told the Buddha that Siddhatha had never doubted him. Those were the two characters reactions towards those people.
Question 6:
Elie reacted this way towards Madame Schachter because of what people saw. People did not see any fire and thought she was crazy. Because of thinking she was crazy, the people tied her up. siddhartha reacted this way towards the Buddha because he didn't think the Teachings could teach him more than what he already knew. He listened to the Teachings many times before. After hearing the Buddha speak there was peace in the Teachings and he felt that everything was perfectly clear.
Question 1
ReplyDeleteIn the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha has been making decisions for himself, and for his friend Govinda, and they have both been going through the same things. They both follow the path of the samana for 3 years, learning new things. Then Govinda Learns of a Buddha that has teachings worth being listened to. Siddhartha decides to leave the samana, where he was happy, to go with Govinda. When they listen to the Buddha's teaching, Govinda decides to take refuge with him, and his many brothers. This was the first thing Govinda has decided to do himself. Siddhartha wishes to continue seeking what he looks for, and so he is separated with his best friend, to find what he seeks.
In the book Night, Elie doesn't have much decisions except to stay with his father to not make his journey anymore unpleasant. He is forced to stay with a group of men that was put with him. They then live together and struggle through the camp together. They must do what they are told to do or else they will be rid of.
Question 2
Siddhartha makes a collective decision to become a samana, he and Govinda would live in the forest and learn new things. They would learn to practice meditation, and to learn to strive through hunger and thirst. Govinda would always follow What Siddhartha would do, and so it meant them both would be together, until Govinda finds out about the Buddha. This was a good decision as they both learned new things and explored new places unfimiliar to them.
In the book Night, Elie had the option to stay with his mother and family, but instead he stayed with his father. It ended up becoming a good decision for him, as he survived the crematation and now works for the Germans.
Question 3
ReplyDeleteGovinda does the first thing for himself, without the consult of Siddhartha. He decides to take refuge with The Buddha and his brothers. This is a difficult decision for Siddhartha, as he does not want to take refuge with them, but does not want to be separated from his best friend. In the end, Siddhartha decides to not join the refuges, and continuehis quest for more knowlegde. This is harmful because it leaves the both of them fill with sorrow, as they loved each other.
In the Book Night, an SS officer tells Elie to go by the age of 18. When another officer asks him about what his age is, he says 18. When he asks him what is his occupation, he says farmer. Because the Officer believes his 18, he is now forced to do work with the other older men that must do labor, so this was a bad decison. He would have been better off telling him his real age, and then be able to not do anything.
Question 4
Madame Schachter and Buddha are both very different people, who take many different roles in the books, and yet, they both have one similarity. Miss Schachter was a crazed women who claimed to see fires, and whenever she would, she would tell everyone to look at them out the window. They did look, but found nothing. Then later, they saw the chimney, with fire atop it. The Buddha was a spiritual teacher who spoke of teachings from the Gods themselfs. He preached, and everyone heard. People heard these two people, despite whatever they said, which is what makes them somewhat similar.
Question 5
ReplyDeleteElie and Siddhartha react to Miss Schachter and Buddha in similar ways. Elie listens to the Miss, even though she sounds crazy, and he actuallyy believed her, even though everybody couldn't stand her. Elie was really the only one who listened, and believed in her. Everybody else saw the poor lady as a crazy one that had become mentally damaged from all that was happening. Siddhartha also, heard the Teachings of the Buddha, and he thought that there could be no other more perfect teaching. Yet, Siddhartha listened hard enough to be able to understand what other people couldn't understand. He found flaws in the Buddha's teaching, which was not found before. Both main characters heard and listened differently to Miss Schachter and the Buddha.
Question 6
Elie reacts this way because he sees everybody else seeing her very awkwardly and in a annoyed way, and so he attempts to see her in a different point of view. Instead of doing what everyone else does by ignoring her, he listens, and interprets what she says.
Siddhartha react's this way because the Buddha's teachings were supposedly perfect, and Siddhartha seeked if there was anything that he might have missed through his teaching. And so he did.
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ReplyDeleteSiddhartha and Night both make different individual and collective decisions. Siddhartha makes a lot of individual decisions .For example when Siddhartha left govinda,he made an individual decision to leave his friend to be with Guatama.In Night,collective decision making was used a lot. The group of prisoners make decisions to share and conserve food and to take turns with the seatsand how to help each other survive. The types of decisions make people who they are and how they are seen.
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Based on the collective the main characters made good decisions. Siddhartha decided to leave govinda and the samanas to learn about the teachings of Buddha because of Govinda. In Night Elie lies to the german officer about his age and stays with his dad when the rest of his family are in another camp he tries to stay with his dad the only family he has left. These collective decisions only benefited the main character.
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In Siddhartha, Siddhartha's main individual goal was to separate from his best friend Govinda and find his own path to nirvana. Govinda and Siddhartha were inseperable because Govinda would always follow his friend no matter what he did as he adored his company and his knowledge. Siddhartha parted from his friend and also from the samanas and Buddha. This was Siddharthas biggest decision so far as it will change his life to attempt and reach nirvana. This decision was benificial beacause it helped him gain much knowledge and expierences.
In Night, Elie's individual decision was when asked what was his occupation by an officer, he said that he was a farmer. This decision ended up being harmful to Elie beacuse he lied. Being a farmer he was epxected to know how to work hard for hours and Elie never did that in his life. To stay with his father and not get caught lieing he has to pretend to be a farmer and go through grueling labor for many hours and eat little. He needs this to survive and not be killed so he can have the hope to survive and get out of this camp.
question 4
Madame Schacter and Buddha are both similar in the way that they people listen to them. Everytime Madame Schacter yelled about a fire people would always look towards where she was poiting even though she wasn't right. When the rumors of Guatama reaching nirvana spread some people dind't believe him but others were amazed. In the end Madame Schacter was correct about the fire. Buddha and Madame Schacter are similar because people listen to them.
question 5
In the book Siddhartha when he finds out about these rumors about Buddha reaching nirvana he doens't believe it that much and is not that amazed. When he finally sees Guatama he is amazed by his wisdom and actions and causes Siddhartha go through a beneficial change of determination. When Elie sees how Madame Schacter acts he becomes concerned on how crazy shes become. When he hears her yell about the fire he tries to believe her and understand her pain. This is beneficial beacause it teaches Elie that bad times are coming.
question 6
Elie believed Madame Schacter beacause he tried to understand what she was going through. He understood this was a bad and scary time and that it was hard to keep sanity. Knowing was seperated by her husband and two other sons she was strucken by sadness and fear. Elie understood why she acted like this. Siddhartha reacted this way because Gautama was holy. Gautama was full of truth, calmness, and peace. Siddharth had never loved and had respect for someone like Guatama. At first, Siddhartha was curious about the Buddha because he too wanted to reach nirvana, and end his cycle. He wanted to hear the teachings of the great one. This man was perfect, and Siddhartha knew that he couldn’t resist.
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ReplyDeleteEach book shows how a character makes a new decision. In the book Siddhartha, the characters Siddhartha and Govinda, go on a journey to join the samanas. They then learn about another teaching with Buddha. Siddhartha decides he wants to leave the samanas teachings and join the Buddha teachings. Then he decided to leave his friend Govinda behind with Buddha and rejoin with the samanas.In the book Night, the character Elie and other jews are sent to the consentration camp. They saw terrible things that happened to babies and weak jews. They viewed them being thrown in a flaming ditch and dieing. Elie his father and other jewish men have a decision to make, and it is also a mager goal. The decision that they make is that they gave different ages so that they can stay as close as possiple and a live. So they must work hard and do what they are told in order to stay alive and not be thrown in that terrible flaming ditch, like the others. Siddhartha`s struggle is that if he leaves Govinda to join the Buddha, Their friendship with eachother will not be as great as they were in the begining. Elie`s Struggle is that he is only fifteen, and he must work like a man which is very hard, he might get weak and that can end his life, his father`s life and many other jews.
QUESTION # 2:
The characters made decisions based on the collective. Siddartha left his friend because he found a failing point in the Buddha teaching, and he wanted the samanas back because they taught him new things that he knows and loves now. His decision is beneficial, because they have learned that through life changes occur and so they must split now. Elie`s Decision of teeling the Germans he was eighteen. Though he has to work extra hard now because they believe he is a man, it was beneficial to do what he did. If he would have said his age, he probly would have never been with his father. His father would have been alone as well, and he was happy to be with him, though they were going through rough things.
QUESTION # 3:
Both Siddhartha and Elie made their decisions based on indivisual reasons. Siddhartha`s decision was benificial because he learns to followwhere he desires, and that is to become a samana. Elie`s decision was also benificial because though he is young, he will learn to become strong like a man, and he will probly be able to survive in the harsh place he and other jews are now.
QUESTION # 4:
Mademe Scachter and Buddha are similar. In the book Siddhartha, Buddha is known as a great person who had reached Nirvana and went through many journies,but not everyone believes it because there are no witnesses to proove it. In the book Night, Mademe Scachter, was seen as a crazy women when she was screaming about seeing a fire. When people would look where she claimed to see the fire, there was nothing there. These characters are similar because they both went through phases in their life, but people did not belive them though they might have been true.
QUESTION # 5:
Siddhartha`s reaction towards the Buddha was indeed benificial because he told Buddha in a respectful way, what he has found out about his teaching. Since he has done that Buddha had told him he was a wise person, which means that Siddhartha is begining to change his mind around and go where he wants, though he does not want to leave his friend, Govinda. Elie`s reaction towards Mrs.Scachter was benificial, because he did believe in her but he did not want to be called crazy and he did not want to get beat up as she did. So his decision prevented that.
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I think Siddhartha made his decision because he is a person who thirsts for change. He did that by joining the samanas and using what he learned in his decision. I think Elies made his decision in order to be safe, and not getting harmed by the other jews who were mad with Mrs.Scachter.
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ReplyDeleteThe main characters Siddhartha and Elie, make many decisions. In the book Night, Elie struggles to make a decision whether he should stay with his father and family rather than save himself and leave while he has the chance. His decision is a shared one because Elie took into consideration his entire family . In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha left the samanas, making a decision that benefited him. Besides making a decision with others, he made a choice pretty much only benefiting himself.
Question 2:
Based on the collective decision, in Night, Elie decides to make the decision to go on and stay with his father after being separated from his family. Since Jews were forced to come to this concentration camp. Going to this place wasn’t an option because they were forced to or else they’d face themselves with death but Elie decides to lie that he’s eighteen because he wants to be with his father. This was a good decision because if he hadn’t lied he would have been sent to the concentration camp. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha and his best friend Govinda decide to go away and learn the ways of the Samanas. This was both a good and bad decision because although Siddhartha has been following his own path , it made him leave his family.
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In the book Siddhartha states, “Siddhartha has always thirsted for more knowledge about things because he’s full of questions” (pg14), so he decide to go on and explore the world and this caused Siddhartha to make a risky choice which, I believe ended his friendship with Govinda. This was beneficial decision because all he wants is to choose the right path and to be able to answer his wonders. Elie’s decision in the novel Night, is staying with his father, because that’s what he really needed after being separated from the rest of his family. Being separated from them in this concentration camp was a harsh thing for him. His decision is beneficial because he’s not left alone and he has his father with him to strength himself during these complicated periods of his life.
Question 4:
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar in many ways. The both spoke the truth. Madame Schachter always yelled that there was a fire but there really wasn’t so people started to think she was loosing it. Until one day she called out fire again and people didn’t believe her and it was a real fire this time. Buddha is a man of truth that people follow his values and teachings.
Question 5:
Elie and Siddhartha have many similarities in reacting towards Madame Schacter and the Buddha.
Eli didn’t actually do anything when Madame Schacter was being hit and tied . Siddhartha was shocked because the Buddha was arguing about something Siddhartha said. I do believe their reactions were beneficial because they each learned something about themselves.
Question 6:
Eli reacted this way because he believed that if her interfere he might of gotten hit by the people.
Siddhartha reacted that way because he didn’t agree with the amazing Buddha and because he wanted to give his own opinion of teaching.
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ReplyDeleteQuestion 1:
When Siddhartha has the opportunity to join the samanas he makes a collectively based decision because he desires to talk to buddah. On the other hand he makes an individual based decision when he leaves Govinda in order to be part of the samanas. In Night Elie makes an individual decision by choosing to stay with his dad and stick with the rest of his family instead of going with Martha who offered safe refuge. The jews make a collectively based decision by deciding to work together.
Question 2:
Based on collective Siddhartha makes the decision of becoming a samana, in order to do this he must become a lower ranking in the caste system. This was good because Siddhartha does this to help his friend Govinda so that they can experience the journey together. In Night Elie decides to sleep standing up even though it is against his own will, in the end it is worth it so he and the other Jews do not get in trouble which makes it a good decision.
Question 3:
Elie made a beneficial decision in Night by deciding to listen to his body and eat. Although he did not want to eat the food they served at the concentration camp he knew if he didn’t he would have no strength, which was beneficial in the long run. Siddhartha also made a beneficial decision based upon his individual need. Siddhartha's individual need was to communicate with Buddha, to do this Siddhartha made the decision to separate from Govinda in hopes of benefiting his knowledge.
Question 4:
Madame Schachter and Buddha are two completely different characters; they do how ever have one similarity, which is that they have an impact on people. Since Buddha is a great symbol anyone who follows him and his teachings has been impacted. The same goes for Madame Schachter when she screamed about the fire and smoke she saw, and no one believed her until they saw it for themselves when they arrived at the camps. Although this may not be as positive of an impact as compared to Buddha never the less she still left an impression on the Jews who listened to her.
Question 5:
Siddhartha shows confidence in his first encounter with the Buddha. He gains this confidence because he feels that he is closer to nirvana. By being confident Siddhartha is being beneficial because it is helping him a long on his journey. Elie's reaction to Madame Schachter is not as easy to identify. Even though Elie knew Madame Schachter was lying he kept his composure and remained very calm. If that wasn’t the case and Elie flipped out on her, the other people might think he was crazy.
Question 6:
Since Elie was so used to Madame Schachter causing a commotion he didn’t think much of it, and knew it was best to keep his thought personal and not share them. He acted calm whenever Madame Schachter approached him because he did not want the other people to make false assumptions about himself. Siddhartha was able to act confident when meeting Buddha because he came to the understanding that Buddha himself even had flaws, making him more approachable and easier to obtain confidence.
1). Siddhartha makes a choice into becoming a samana with his friend Giovanda. But this decision has an effect on everyone including himself and his family. But this is a big decision that he finds out that he might need some type of support and help from a very close friend. This shows that when a person makes a decision with another person it’s easier to handle the pain and the pressure. But when a person makes a big decision in a group the effect that it has is and does affect everyone in the group. But Elie has no power on the decision that his father has taken in regards of sticking with everyone else and risking getting killed or being imprisoned. But this shows the risk that Elie and his family are taking.
ReplyDelete2). Elie took the decision of lying about his age so him and his father could end up being together. Even though he wasn’t so happy with the idea he figured that it would be best for them. So he wouldn’t end up dead like his mother and the rest of his sibling were by now. Siddhartha’s decision was to first join the samana’s with his best friends. Then since for him it wasn’t enough they decide to join the Buddha.
3). Elie took the decision of saying that he was a farmer when he really wasn’t. This brought his harm. Because now the Germanys are making his work extremely hard so he can live up to what he says that he is? Siddhartha’s decision was that he was separated from his best friend. Giovanda stayed with the Buddha teachings. While Siddhartha decided to look for something more in life to learn.
4). Madame Schachter is a crazy women that screams for no reason while they are begin transported to the concentration camps but nobody believes her until she is about to die and fire is actually burning. Buddha says a speech in which people are urged to follow and listen. Since both of these people prove to be valid to pay attention to and to listen to them.
5). Well Elie and Siddhartha both react in a similar ways. Elie believes Madame Schachter is saying but he really doesn’t do anything to help her. Siddhartha does kind of the same thing. He listens to what Buddha has to say and believes it and this is a little beneficial for him because he gains more knowledge. But for Elie not taking the madam’s side meant his not being hurt in anyway.
6). Siddhartha: because he felt that he was right. Since he wants to find the right and true path to reach nirvana. He decided that Buddha was wrong because he had found the right in his teachings but it went against what he was preaching. Even thought that he respected Buddha with his teachings.
Elie: believed what the Madame said about the fire. But he respected her and he also knew her but he didn’t do anything to help her not get hurt. This is similar because they both stayed stationary to the other people.
Question 1:
ReplyDeleteIn both Night by Elie Wiesel and Siddhartha by Herman Hesse, the authors express the struggle between making decisions for the individual in opposition to the collective. In the book Night when the Jews were crammed into cattle cars they were told that if anyone would escape the leader of each car would be shot on the spot. Although escaping free was tempting, they did not even attempt it for the better of the collective. Also in the book Siddhartha, many must decide if they would like to join and follow the Sublime one and his teachings. This meant giving up their family, friends, and everything they have. Sure their family would miss them, but it would benefit them since they can find deliverance. In both books characters are put in situations in which they have to choose between decisions that will either benefit themselves or the group as a whole.
Question 2:
Both Eliezer and Siddhartha made decisions based on the collective. Siddhartha decides to go with Govinda on a journey to see the Sublime one. This is beneficial to him because in the end he finds himself and realizes what he wants to do with his life. Much like Siddhartha, Elie decided to lie to the German soldier about his age. He knew that if he said his real age he would be separated from his father and tortured so he decided to say he was 18. This was also a beneficial decision in the end because not only was he in a safer place then he would have been if he wouldn’t have lied about his age but he wasn’t alone, he had his father with him.
Question 3:
Not only did Elie and Siddhartha make decisions for the better of the collective but for their own good as well. Although Siddhartha and Govinda went on their journey to see the Buddha together, they did not return together. Govinda decided to stay with the Sublime one and find deliverance, but Siddhartha decided not to follow any more belief systems. He wasn’t convinced and found a flaw in the Buddha’s teachings. Despite the fact that he lost his best friend, he found himself and left knowing what he wanted to do next with his life, which is to live under his own rules not others. Elie like Siddhartha made the choice to not defend his father when he got slapped by Gypsie. Elie knew if he defended him, he would most likely either end up getting tortured or burned alive in the furnace. Both of these characters made the choice to put themselves before others, which in the end benefited them because not only where they more satisfied but they were safe as well.
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ReplyDeleteMadame Schachter and Buddha have a few similarities. Madame Schachter was separated from her family during the first transport by mistake. Although Buddha wasn’t forced to separate from his loved ones he chose to when he decided to discover deliverance and end suffrage. Also in a sense both individuals foreshadow the future to people. Madame Schachter throughout chapter 2 kept yelling and warning the Jews that she saw fire and later a furnace. Although people didn’t believe her at first, at the end of the chapter they arrived at Auschwitz where the smell of burning flesh was unbearable and there stood the furnace. Buddha similar to Madame Schachter guides his followers to discover deliverance, since he has experienced more than they have. He is known to have supreme knowledge since he could remember his passed lives and the fact that he had already reached Nirvana. Although he was a god figure to many, some did not believe in him, just like people didn’t believe Madame Schachter at first.
Question 5:
Both Siddhartha and Eliezer’s reaction towards Buddha and Madame Schachter were similar. Although inside Madame Schachter’s screaming made Elie a bit uncomfortable, he kept calm. He just barred with the occasional screaming unlike the others who were beating her senseless. Siddhartha akin to Elie approached Buddha in a very calm and respectful manor. These two characters were very cautious with their actions which made their reactions and approach beneficial. Since Siddhartha was so careful with his words, Buddha thought of him as a wise man and in a way admired his thoughts instead of feeling offended. Elie also was very calm and didn’t take matters into his own hands which was good because if he would have taken matters into his own hands he might have startled the rest of the passengers even more.
Question 6:
Elie kept calm through Madame Schachter's screams instead of beating her like the others did. He probably reacted this way because despite the fact that her screams were getting unbearable he rather keep his thoughts to himself and worry about where they were heading. Siddhartha also approached Buddha in a calm manor and expressed his thoughts about Buddha’s teachings very respectfully because the last thing he wanted was for Buddha to feel offended or attacked. Siddhartha didn't want to start a fight all he wanted was to express his thoughts.
1. In Night, decisions were struggled collective. Anyone had the choice to run away or not but it would lead everyone to be killed. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha struggled in making decision whether or not to follow Guatama, the Buddha who has reached Nirvana. Siddhartha’s best friend Govinda who has always been with Siddhartha, decides to follow Buddha. Siddhartha decides to leave his friend and find the meaning of life, leaving him all alone.
ReplyDelete2. Elie and Siddhartha have been through many things based on the collectives. Siddhartha decides to leave his friend and the samana to develop his knowledge. Siddhartha made a good decision. Being in the samana for few years gave him more knowledge. Elie also made a good decision. If Elie didn’t listen to the SS officer about being eighteen years old, he would’ve been killed, Elie saw children being burned.
3. Elie made the choice to whether to lie to Reizel’s husband if Reizel and his two sons are doing fine. Reizel’s husband said the only thing that would keep him alive is his family being alive. Elie’s decision in lying to Reizel’s husband was beneficial. If he didn’t lie, Reizel’s husband would’ve died or killed himself. Siddhartha made a harmful decision in continuing on his journey in finding the meaning of life. Siddhartha is thirsting for too much knowledge; he’ll never be able to reach his goal.
4. Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar in a way. Madame Schachter would scream out fire every time and people would take a glance. Buddha has people following his teachings, showing people believe that’s how life works. Both Buddha and Madame Schachter have people believing and having trust in them.
ReplyDelete5. When Elie saw how Schachter was acting and shouting out ‘’FIRE!” He would be one of the people who would take a glance. When Buddha arrived, Siddhartha would immediately attentively look at him. Both Elie and Siddhartha react immediately. Their reaction wasn’t beneficial because at times, when Schachter called out fire, there wasn’t really fire and when Siddhartha saw Buddha, he wasn’t curious about his teaching.
6. Elie reacted this way because his surroundings were acting the same way. Siddhartha was acting this way because at first he was curious of the Buddha because he was thirsting for more knowledge. He heard from people that the Buddha can help him. Once Siddhartha met Buddha, he wasn’t curious of Buddha’s teaching.
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ReplyDeleteIn the book night there was a really huge decision making where Elie has to decide on lying to stay alive. Dr. Mengele as the people what’s their name, age, how was their health, and their profession. That person he is talking to must be careful with what he or she says. In the book this man tells Elie to lie in order to stay with his dad he had to be a man and listen. In the book Siddhartha the character Govinda has made a decision to choose his own path and not follow Siddhartha because he believes that there is something more.
Question 2
Based on the collective of the characters they show that they have to do whatever it takes to get what they want. In Night Elie and his father choose to lie about their age and their professions because if not they would get separated like what happened with men and women only Elie’s father would know what happened to him. Since they chose to use their words wisely and make sure they don’t say the wrong thing their plan worked out perfectly. So this was a good decision. In the book Siddhartha a remarkable thing happened, Siddhartha and Govinda both follow the samanas. Since Siddhartha wants more knowledge he goes to seek with the samanas, there they will learn the teachings.I think its a good decision because they get to see more from the world.
Question 3
In the book night he decides to stay calm and not just do things because it sounds like a better idea than being tortured, Elie actually had to think for himself and make sure he does the right choice for him n his father. This helped him out because them he knows that if he does something wrong it can hurt his father. In the book Siddhartha When govinda and Siddhartha go out to seek for knowledge Siddhartha chooses to leave them and fine his own way to nirvana because he feels that that is the right thing to do. In both books their decisions were beneficial.
Question 4
Even though they are two completely different people Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar because Buddha gives people the teachings of life and how to get to Nirvana, Many people say that he tells no lies and Madame Schachter was the one that people thought was crazy and then people found out that she was right. Madame Schachter and Buddha are two similar people because they both have been telling no lies and they had to get people to believe them.
question 5
Elie Heard Madame scream and as he spots out her son trying to calm her down he was feeling sorry for him and her because he thought that the situation was so bad that she started seeing things. As she kept on the crowd and Elie kept on believing her. I don’t think their reaction were beneficial because all they did was beat her up. Siddhartha also believed Buddha because he thought that all the answers he needed were so clear. But I also don’t think this was beneficial because this isn’t really how life is.
Question 6
Elie reacted this way because he didn’t know what to expect he listens to a lady screaming fire and there’s nothing of cores they going to think she’s crazy. He couldn’t even stand the way they treated the lady as well and her son in front of her. Elie didn’t really have a reaction he was just scared and didn’t know what to do. Siddhartha Believed that there wasn’t really anything else that could be taught to him because he had already studied with Buddha and had a great understanding and this is why he goes on this journey to find out more on what there is to learn.
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ReplyDeleteNight and Siddhartha shows a change where the main characters made decisions affecting themselves. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha has choseto become a samana against his father decision not to. Eventually,Siddhartha & Govinda departs their ways as Siddhartha went to find his dinner self. In Night, Elie struggled with going with who he is and doing what is best. Elie makes decision that either support himself or everyone a whole as in one case, the screaming of Madame Schachter. Those were the struggles these characters faced.
Question 2
In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha chose to become a samana with Govinda. This was a good idea because now he gets to learn more with his best friend. In the book Night, Elie's collective decision was to lie
about his age just so he could stay with his father. This was wise but a good choice as he stays together with his father other than being separated.
Question 3
In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha chose to leave his parents to join the samana. It was a beneficial decision because Siddhartha kept
questioning his beliefs and now he finally or could possibly have the answers to them. In the book Night, Elie decided to stay with his father. This was a good decision as they both have a good bond
Question 4
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar because they both was viewed differently due their thoughts on the world. Madame Schachter was his woman that screamed fire constantly but was ignored and even beaten
for her supposed lie. Buddha was appeared to be perfect from the eyes of Siddhartha until one of his teaching turned to be a flaw which changed Siddhartha‘s choice on becoming a samana.
Question 5
Elie and Siddhartha reacted to Schachter and Buddha similarly because they both saw a flaw in what they said. Siddhartha agreed with his every word until his teachings about ruling the world changed his perspective on Buddha. Elie had pity for Madame Schachter but didn’t want to get beaten like her so she ignored her like everyone did.
Question 6
In the book Siddhartha, Siddhartha saw perfection in every part of his body but in one part of his teachings. In the book Night, Elie believed there was a fire like everyone else did the first time. But as
he chants kept coming, she reacted by ignoring her until they really saw
the fire.
Taneka Johnson
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Question#1
In both the book Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse, and Night by Elie Wiesel, the struggle between making a decision for the individual versus making decisions for the collective are shown. In both books Siddhartha and Elie struggle between making a decision for their self and for a group. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha himself falls between two paths. He has to think about and reflect on his choices and figure out which one will meet his goals. He decides to make a decision individually to leave the Samanas. In Night, Elie struggles with the disturbing things he has seen and his beliefs. He has witnessed children being burned alive by the Germans. He begins to wonder if his god really exists and he starts to wonder about his religion. The shocking part of Elie's life begins to reveal itself. Elie decides to stay by his father's side on the concentration camp and not to do anything to upset the Germans.
Question#2
Both Govinda and Siddhartha decided to leave the Samanas as a collective. Each of them wanted to find a new path to Nirvana. This was a good decision because, both of them felt like following the Samanas would not get them to Nirvana. In Night, Elie made a decision to tie up Madame Schachter and that benefitted everyone because now they could get a little peace and quiet, and they won't have to deal with her yelling anymore.
Question#3
Each character is influenced by personal needs of their own. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha's need individually is a good religion. He decides to join the Samanas. He believed that joining the Samanas would give him some knowledge and maybe even the answers to his questions that he has been so longing to find the answers to. In Night, Elie made a decision to stay by his father's side eventhough he knew he would have to go to the concentration camp. Being with his father benefitted Elie because they could help and survive off of each other. The fact that he has to go to the concentration camp brings Elie to reality of how serious his situation really is. Siddhartha and Elie's decision for their personal need benefitted them both in way.
Question#4
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similar because, the words that they speak and the things that they say are believable to some of the people around them. In Siddhartha, Buddha speaks to and tells/teaches the people about things or issues like pain or suffering and they believe him and think he is very wise. In Night, Madame Schachter screams and tells the people about the fire and Elie as well as the other people realize that she is telling the truth.
Question#5
There were similarities in how Elie and Siddhartha reacted to Schachter and Buddha. Elie's reaction towards Schachter was suprising. It was doubtful because he at first did not believe her. Siddhartha at first also had doubts about Buddha and his teachings. Elie benefitted from Schachter's claim because there really was a fire, and Siddhartha benefitted from Buddha when he gained experience. Both Elizier and Siddhartha's reactions benefitted them near the end.
Question#6
Elie reacted the way he did because, Madame Schachter screamed so loud out of the clear blue causing Elie and everyone else to think she was probably crazy or illusinating. Siddhartha reacted the way he did because, he didn't believe the whole idea of the Buddha in the first place. But, Buddha was proved to be real after Siddhartha realized that some of his teachings were true.
Question#1
ReplyDeleteBoth in the books Siddhartha and Night show the struggle with making descions. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha struggles with making a decision whether to stay with Govinda and Buddha or taking his journey alone. In Night Elie must struggle with keeping his compusure because in the concentration camp your decisions are like everyones decisons so if one person in your group messes up all of you must deal with the cosequences.
Question#2
Both Night and Siddhartha have collective based decisions here are examples:
In Night Elie and his group in the concentration camp had to make many collective decsions especially when it came to following orders and disclipling yourself. Elie and his group had to be sure to follow nazi orders becuase if they messed up on anything all will face consequences. This was a good decision because they wouldn't be tortured or killed.
In Siddhartha, Siddhartha and Govinda make a collective decision when it came to joining the semanas and meeting with Buddha. This was a good decision because Siddhartha gets to follow his goal and gets help along the way.
Question#3
In both Siddhartha and Night Elie and Siddhartha make good individual decisions. In Night when Elie first arrives at the concentration camp and his told where to go during selction, he thinks him and his father will be killed. Elie wanted to kill himself, but after thinking through he decides to wait it out with his father. It turns out his choice was a good one because he did not get killed but sent to a barracks. This was also good because it didn't put his father and others in jepordy. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha decides to leave Govinda and go on his journey alone. This choice may be good to strengthen Siddhartha but he may still need help to reach his goal along the way.
Question#4
Madame Schachter and Buddha are similiar because they both can predict what may happen in the future. Like Madame Schachter predicted that the trains leading to the concentration camps only bring fire and death. And this becomes true when the train arrives at the camp, because the first thing people see is fire burning. And Buddha I think predicted that Siddhartha made a good choice by leaving him and Govinda, because if he thought it was bad judgement he would have spoke his mind.
Question #5
Elie reacted to Schachter by keeping to himself and tried not be bother by it as much as the other were.
Siddhartha reacted to Buddha and his teachings by addressing to him in a respectful manner that he doesn't think its right or true.
Question#6
Elie recacted this way because he did not want to hurt anyone plus he let the men beat her because they were the ones who wre most annoyed by her screams. He knew she was crazy and let her be.
Sidhartha addressed to Buddha about his thoughts because he believed it would get him closer to Nirvana.
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ReplyDeleteBoth books showed the struggle of making decisions for the individual rather than the group. In Night, Elie decided to stay with his father, and try to live through life in the camp with him. At one point, he though of running into the electric fence to end his life and he wouldn't have to put up with the camp, but then though other wise and decided to stay with his father and be strong. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha decides to leave his friend Govinda with Buddha and his followers. He though it would be best for him to go along with his journey alone and look for his own enlightenment alone. Siddhartha also knows that Govinda is better off and is happy to be with and learn from Gautama.
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Both books showed the struggle of making decisions for the group. In the book Night, the Jews decide to live through this nightmare and help each other together as a group, and hopefully leave alive as a group. A few Jews probably decided that they would rather die than try and live through the horror with the others, and then get themselves killed. Only those that help each other could live, it makes life easier that way. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha decided to go with Govinda to look for Gautama, to help both him and his friend learn. Even though they were with the samanas, and their samana leader dissapproved, they decided to go on and look for Gautama, because it would be the best for both of them.
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In both books, their decisions for the individual need were both beneficial and harmful for both main characters. In Night, Elie decided to stay with his father and try to survive through the war. This was beneficial because with his father at his side, it would give him more strength to live in the harsh conditions of the camp. He would also get help from his father when he needs it,or perhaps some protection too. It is harmful because he would have many problems and threats to come while living there, even a chance of death. In Siddhartha, Siddhartha leaves his family to go and live with the samanas. It is beneficial to him because he can go out into the world and explore, looking for the wisdom and knowledge he is looking for. It can be harmful too because traveling as young as he and Govinda are can be very dangerous.
4. Madame Schachter and Buddha have quite a few things in common. One thing that they have in common is that they both are a form of teachers in their home town. Madame Schachter teaches in the school that Elie used to attend and taught students basic thing like math and writing. Buddha taught to others on how one can reach Nirvana and how to find inner peace. Another thing in common is that they both have some form of followers. Madame Schachter is followed by students thats she teaches in school. Buddha is followed by the many monks he teaches and believe that he can help them reach Nirvana.
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Elie and Siddhartha both reacted to Madame Schachter/Buddha similarly. Elie and Siddhartha both believed what they had to say. Elie believed Madame Schachter every time she yelled about a fire near her. Siddhartha believed the teachings of Buddha and believed all he had said to him. Their reactions were beneficial because they reacted in a respectful way. Every time when Madame Schachter screamed out about a fire, Elie kept his reaction to himself and respected her condition. When Buddha gave his teaching in front of Siddhartha and Govinda, Siddhartha kept his comments to himself until after he was done, and gave him his comments as respectful as he could.
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They react this way because that is how they are as people. Elie did not react like the others and did not scream back at her or join in beating her because that is not the way he is. Elie is a quiet person that keeps his thoughts to himself, he likes to respect other people as well as he can. Elie is not a disrespectful guy. Siddhartha reacts the way he does because like Elie, he likes to keep his comments and ideas to himself, and would not like to disrespect Buddha by pointing out something in the middles of his teaching. Siddhartha may not be a quiet as Elie, but he sure is as smart and respectful as him.
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ReplyDeleteWhen one person is faced with the task of creating a decission for a group there is always lots of judgement passed. Even though it is ultimately that one person's choice, everyone will develop and hold their own opinions. That one person will be in the predicament of who gets to have their wishes granted and who will be let down. Never in a group will everyone win and never will a perfect copromise be set. With Elie this is shown through his decission of what to do within the concentration camp. He has few options and none are what he would hope to do, but he must choose. By his choice he will have to compromise himself and his what other's around him want. I say they are included only because they are all easily influenced at this point and whatever he does may have a huge impact on another prisoner. He chooses to try and stay with his father through this journey. It is a hard choice because he does not know yet what the difficulty of this may be. He also doesn't know if his father will die or not and if this should happen he will have to find a new way to live and to try and survive in what is a lifestyle of hell. Siddartha's choices are not death- defying, buit they too hold lots of impact. The most impact is stressed on his family and his dear friend Govinda, who looks up to him as a mentor. One choice Siddartha had to make was to leave the samanas with Govinda and then decide if he wanted to follow under the teachings of Guatama. He and Govinda do leave the samanas, which in itself was a hard task to complete. This was difficult because it created fury within the heart of one of the samana elders and Siddartha had found that the only way to gain permission to leave was to show him that they had learned from the samanas. Siddartha had succesfully spellbound thew elder and made him find in himself to bid adue to the two young men. Once on their journey Siddartha and Govinda found themself soon listening to the very teachings of Guatama. Afterwards, Govinda had devoted himself to the Buddha's teachings and approached Siddartha. Siddartha had informed Govinda that he would not be going with the Buddha. He told him that it was time for him to find his own path and discontinue his following in Siddartha's footsteps. Although Govinda was reluctant to hear this, he gradually understood it. It was a hard decission for Siddartha to make but he does it with his head held high.
question 2
The decission Elie chose was to stay with his father. This ultimatly became good because it gave him someone to go through this journey with. It also granted him a reason to keep going on this journey, though it was a brutal one. In a way i see it also as giving him hope and encouragement. having his father their somewhat made Elie able to make it through the concentrattion camp succesully and in good health. Siddartha's decission was to help Govinda begin to find his own path while he continued on the journey of finding his. This was a good decission because it gave Govinda something. It gave Govinda a veiw of himself through someone else's eyes. Most of the time Givinda believed that he too was making just as mich progress as Siddartha was. He had not realized that he had been standing in Siddartha's shadow for so long. By making this decission Siddartha is also able to keep going on his own journey, which is a good decission because it allows him to try and achieve his own personal goals. This is a task that he realized can only be completed within himself and he is willing to fully devote himself to it.
question 3
ReplyDeleteWithin every decission that someone comes to, they try to not only halp others that they are making the decission for, but they try to benefit thjemselves within the same decission. Siddartha is benefiting himself because he is now allowing himself to be completely devoted to his path. he is taking his time to acheive his own hgreatness. In Elie's case it is hard to tell wheather or not this decission is beneficail towards himself or not. His situation is being face with death every single day. he can never be sure if the decission he is making is the right one or not. His decission is to stay with his father and to basically protect his father and himself. This would seem like the right choice, but Elie can never be sure wheather or not this choice is reachable or going to happen.
question 4
There are not many similarities between Madame Shachter and Guatama the Buddha, however there is one I came across. They both had to go through some process that helped them grow. Buddha had been through all his previous lives and Madame Shachter had to go through deportation and becoming an outcast within her own people. The Buddha and Madamew Shachster had both reached a point where they no longer needed words to express themselves. the Buddha speaks few but powerful words. Madame Shachster at first screamed for her voice to be heard. No one wanted this because they thought she was crazy,, so they gagged her and beat her over the head so they would no longer have to put up with her cries. When the others in the truck had realized that her cries spoke of the truth, they looked to see a reaction from her. She no longer screamed, or even spoke, she simply sat where she was put alone because her words in the first place were not heard and her actions had begun to speak for her.
question 5
ReplyDeleteElie and Siddartha act similarly towards Madame Shachster and towards the Buddha, but they each grasp a different meaning. Elie reacts quietly and towards himself during Madame Shachster's cries to be heard. he holds himself to reflect within his own thoughts. In the end he grasps the fact that no one here will listen and therefore you can try to help them but you also must help yourself if no one stands by your side. Siddartha listens calmly and pateintly as Guatama spreads his teachings. He reflects the words that come to him in his own mind. He soon appraoched the Buddha and expressed to him his opinion on hos there were faults in his teachings. the Buddha replied by sdaying that Siddartha was wise but he should no be to wise or not let his intelligence get the best of him. Ultimatly I believe these reactions benifited both characters. In Elie's case it helped prepare him for what he would see on this viciouse journey. It showed him that no one would listen and you were trully alone and had to be ready to make it through this fight. With Siddartha, it gave him more things to ponder, on eof those things being himself. The buddha never commented on Siddartha's thought, but only on Siddartha as his being. He told him what he saw in Siddartha, which would help him begin to understand himself and help in his journey.
question 6
Each character reacts this way due to his own nature. Elie reacts this way becuase he feels that if he were to help,or perhaps listen more closely to Madama Shaschter than the other, that perhaps he too would be placed as an outcast. Being where he was at the time I do not think he would have wanted to stand out. He would've wanted more just to evaluate his situation and understand what he has to do before he goes and acts wothout reasoning. he was also taking into account that this is an example of what could possibly happen to him so he stood back and obsereved to see what would eventually become of Madame Shaschter.
Siddartha also reacted as he would have normally. He simply spoke his mind toward the Buddha and told him his thoughts. he reacted this way also because he wanted to see the Buddha's reaction. What would the Buddha tell him in return when he would mention this flaw? What, if anything, would he benifit Siddartha with? Siddartha is a determined character who is willing to hear other's voices and opinions as well as express his own.